first couple of videos are clips from the movie last 2 opinions about the movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bb2rt3ikjc&mode=related&search=.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6puqatccq0a&mode=related&search=.
I was utterly appalled watching just these little excerpts from this documentary.
I just can't stop shaking my head here. I think the part that I can't get out of my brain is the lady demanding the children repent...what on EARTH do those kids need to repent for? 6 year olds crying out for forgiveness...for what?!
I'm sorry. disgusting.
so, just last night i spoke with one of the only people i grew up with in the kingdumb hall that i ever considered a friend.
it's been about 8 years since we've spoken.
well, low and behold, she finds me on myspace and we finally chatted last night.
So, just last night I spoke with one of the only people I grew up with in the Kingdumb hall that I ever considered a friend. It's been about 8 years since we've spoken. Well, low and behold, she finds me on myspace and we finally chatted last night. She's out of the truth too, (woohoo!) and has been shunned by her whole family for it (that's a long story in itself, but safe to say if you wanted to see "Conditional Love" in the dictionary you'd see her Aunt and Uncle - Pioneer and Elder who raised her. They dropped her like a hot potato when she faded initially. She came back to the meetings after the hurricane for 8 months. Shunned by the congregation and you'd think that her aunt and uncle would be pleased? NOTHING she did was good enough. So smart girl...drops it. I do have a point to this, I swear! Anyway, so we're chatting...and I find out the fates of those "wonderous" children I was forced to endure during our plethora of visits to the kingdumb hall. One family...2 girls and 2 boys. They were considered super dubs. The Perfect family. Both daughters. Disfellowshipped. One for fornication (she has a two year old), One for breaking up the marriage of a MS in the Congregation. The guy divorces his wife and marries her. One son - in prison for armed robbery and assault. Other son - homosexual (I'm not saying this is a bad thing...Just a bad thing in the Dubness) Another daughter from an Elder/Pioneer...She does erotic photography. To which I say, RIGHT ON! Obviously NOT a witness anymore. Another elder family...2 girls, 1 boy. Boy - prison youngest daughter - shotgun wedding and baby six months later other girl - missing - literally packed up her stuff in the middle of the night and left. These weren't ALL the kids I 'grew' up with in the kingdumb hall, but I'd say it represents 70-80% of them. Not a good retention rate, eh?
just curious....as i can't quite figure out why they do not take part in thanksgiving.
it's such a lovely family holiday.
thanks for any info.. lavendar .
because, they turkey hatehs yo!
actually, if i remember correctly (breaking open the vault on this one), they feel that one should be thankful to god every day and not just pick one day to be thankful to him. Also because of the references to gluttony that this holiday revolves around.
Just to be different/separate from the world.
mine are switzerland, germany, japan, sweden, and china.
my favorite country is germany....I liked the infrastructure...lots of walking and public transport. I lost 12 kilos when I lived there for the summer one year. :) Also the food, beer, and culture was really awesome. I stayed in the Berlin area...I didn't get a chance to visit Bavaria though...ah well...The Baltic Coast is amazing though! Sassnitz rocks! ;)
oh and... <-------- Ugly American ;)
i am in desperate need of help bad.i just found out my snake of a jw fiance already has been dating a jw,the bugger lied to me when i asked.
if there was anybody else.now i just want to make him pay for all the hurt he has caused-i know this isn't the right way to think but why should he get away twice with hurting me.i called him to ask about it and he called me a stalker.i am not just wanted the truth,is that too much to ask?.
i am dead inside.
I agree on both points...the morally upright thing to do would be wash your hands and walk away...however the far more entertaining one would be to stick it to the man, man! So many people say, just let it go, he'll get what he deserves, "Karma is a b!tch." Well sometimes folks...WE ARE THE KARMA.
hehehehe...herpes. ;)
that's my suggestion.
i wouldn't trust most anybody.
Very sage advice. I confided in a MS that I grew up with (and went to college with coincidentally enough), after my father was disfellowshipped and my family practically fell apart overnight because of it. He was oh so very sympathetic...helped answer my questions and was comforting. He turns around and tells everyone that I'm an apostate, so I was shunned from the congregation I had just moved to get away from being shunned cause of my father's dfing.
I was sooooo angry! I'm glad that I had problems with repressed emotions back then cause if the same thing had happened to me today? I would have gladly handed over my black belt to my sensei for the opportunity to beat the snot out of him while he was at the podium unaware ;)
i found out late last night and this morning that 2 of the students at va tech that are among the deceased are very close to me.. 1 young man 20 years old in his sophmore year for mechanical engineering and son of a coworker.
1 young man, childhood friend of my 19 year old son, played little league football, baseball and basketball since age 5 was the other.
his mother and i remain good friends and i will be going to her home today to offer my condolences.
I'm so sorry to hear for your losses...it's just...i can't wrap my brain around it yet. :(
We've been hit hard here too...I have friends at Tech...one of my friends lost two of his professors...and my best friend's cousin is still missing. No word, and he was in the Norris building in class at the time of the attack.
I don't know what else to say. i'm so sorry. :(
today, i don't fear the elders as much, and i think that they fear me more.. how about you, how has 10 years made you better or stronger?.
I feel like i'm a completely different person. It's actually been about 10 years since I left the organization so this is a perfect thread in which to reflect on all of the growing I've done.
First off, and I think most importantly, I'm no longer in the grasps of suicidal depression. I struggled with severe depression while a jehovah's witness with two suicide attempts (one my parents never found out about and the other one...well...they did.) I finally was able to get the help I needed without fear of being labeled weak or not 'trusting in jehovah'. What a change! I know now that I will be on medication for the rest of my life...however, I've realized there is NOTHING and NO ONE worth putting myself back into that mindset or position. Being able to wake up without the first thought being of wanting to not be here is such a wonderous gift. (Not sure how many others felt that way but actuallyt the paradise on earth filled me with dread...the thought of living forever when I couldn't even contemplate anything further than the next minute at times was absolute torture.)
I've made wonderous friendships and added new family members to the ones that I 'lost' when I left the org. My 'sister' Terrie (sister from another mother) has run the gauntlet with me, and I with her, and I would have never met her if I had still been in the clutches of the "Truth."
I met my husband who we've shared almost 9 years of companionship together. I was able to go to college and get a degree and open my horizons. I've always loved learning, but so much of it was discouraged which I think only helped add to the feeling of hopelessness I experienced on a day to day basis.
I think overall I'm a much different person. I'm gregarious now where before I was withdrawn. I love to make people laugh (a defense mechanism - I want people to like me.) But I'm just enjoying the knowledge that the world is what I make of it and not what others tell me it is. I feel like I now have a measure of control over my existence.
as in with the law or in the community????
were jws able to say, see!
they should've stayed in the truth!
well...hmmm...where to start.
First off, got that forbidden 'education' at the den of sin...the University.
Got parts of my skin covered in ink, to make it easier for "God" to identify me as one of the wicked to be destroyed at the Armageddon-fest.
I committed heinous acts of fornication, like holding hands, kissing, and being alone with my now husband. ;)
I swear, I drink in public with the sole intent of getting inebrieated, I hang out with ::gasps:: Catholics from time to time!
and I think the worst of all sins is that I think for myself and question! Doubting Thomas doesn't have anything on me, when I get into the mode to say, "Why, why, why?" :)
to ink or not to ink that was the question!.
the build up.
i was really excited about it and got up early to salute to the sun, cat to the ceiling and baby to the carpet (yoga).
I use AD ointment for my tats...the guys at the shop swear by it and use it while tattooing. Nothing with petroleum base from what i've been told should be used since it can pull up the ink.
