I think it's unrealistic to think there are all positives and no negatives. There are many negative things about the proliferation of porn to younger and younger people.
daniel-p
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Porn - New study suggests it is good for society
by Elsewhere inhttp://www.physorg.com/news187448961.html.
could porn be good for society?physorg.com) -- the arguments against pornography are many, ranging from insistence that porn degrades women and is morally reprehensible to the assertion that pornography viewing is the cause of sex crimes.
however, over the years, there have been numerous studies done on this subject.
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Possible Blood Doctrine Change: A Hypothetical Conversation with all JWs
by daniel-p injw>"but you lived anyway!".
jw>"...".
jw>"well, they'll be ressurected.".
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daniel-p
The problem with trying to hypothesize a potential conversation with a JW is that you're applying logic to both ends of the conversation. A JW, on the other hand, will not apply logic. They apply cult-think and pre-programmed responses. They don't think, they don't reason. They respond in the way they're trained to...kinda like an ape is trained to go up in space in a rocket. He rode the ship up and back, but he didn't actually steer the thing or control anything.
I understand what you're saying, but still, the person you're referring to is the 100%-dyed in the wool JW. There are many others--like we were--who were on the edge. We may have even spoke otherwise, but eventually the doubts all added up.
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Possible Blood Doctrine Change: A Hypothetical Conversation with all JWs
by daniel-p injw>"but you lived anyway!".
jw>"...".
jw>"well, they'll be ressurected.".
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daniel-p
sir82, yes, this is a hypothetical conversation in the event that such a doctrinal change DOES happen. Whether it will happen, is more the topic of the other thread. For this thread, its: what would we, as faders, say to our friends and family?
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Possible Blood Doctrine Change: A Hypothetical Conversation with all JWs
by daniel-p injw>"but you lived anyway!".
jw>"...".
jw>"well, they'll be ressurected.".
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daniel-p
If they do, indeed, change it to being a conscience matter, than their previous interpretation of scripture was wrong. If it is just a "refinement", well, I touch on that above.
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Possible Blood Doctrine Change: A Hypothetical Conversation with all JWs
by daniel-p injw>"but you lived anyway!".
jw>"...".
jw>"well, they'll be ressurected.".
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daniel-p
I don't know about you all, but I'm seriously thinking of making this blood doctrine change (if it happens) the catalyst for "coming out" against the Watchtower publicly.
The following is a hypothetical conversation:
ME>"If the organization really is under God's direction, why would he allow the propigation of a death-dealing doctrine, where his worshipers needlessly died based on misinterpretation of scripture? This has direct application to my own life, where I nearly died of complications related to hemorrhaging (see my profile) from a vascular tumor at the age of 21, only a year after I left Bethel. Why did I need to go through that? My prognosis would have been much better if they could have stabalized me with blood transfusions."
JW>"But you lived anyway!"
ME>"Yes, I did, but I could just as easily have died. I was there, and in those moments I accepted my impending death, fully believing I was making the right choice. Are you telling me that Jehovah made the decision to spare my life because I was faithful to him by not accepting blood?
JW>"..."
ME>"Because if so, why would he reward me for holding to false doctrine? And what about all those who were also faithful to this doctrine, but died?"
JW>"Well, they'll be ressurected."
ME>"Why? Because they were found righteous holding on to a false doctrine? No. You and I both know that Jehovah does not directly intervene to spare the lives of individuals. The Society has said so."
JW>"In any case, the brothers are refining the organization... this is just one more refinement, and we must obey the change and be humble and accept it."
ME>"You call this a refinement? No! Thousands of people--even children--DIED because of this doctrine! You're going to tell me that none of that matters since they'll all be resurrected? Well, then, if that is the case, if Jehovah really sees it that way, then our lives today aren't worth anything."
JW>"I don't understand."
ME>"If Jehovah was perfectly complicit with the needless death of his worshipers, then he must not value the life we have NOW. Our lives, NOW, are worth nothing."
JW>"..."
ME>"However, if he was not complicit with the needless death of his worshipers, then the Society acted against him, and they are a false prophet, misleading millions of people. Their fruit is rotten, and they are, in effect, saying "behold, he is out in the wilderness!" or "behold, he is in the inner rooms!" leading us here and there, straight into ruination (Matt 24:24). They must bear the guilt of the people who died following their false doctrines. As for "me and my household," we will serve God, not these wolves in sheep's clothing."
So, any thoughts?
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Why are we repulsed at the though to consuming human milk?
by Elsewhere ini saw a story this morning about a guy who is making cheese using his wife's breast milk.. i checked a poll and 80% of people think this is gross.
i must admit there is a part of me that is repulsed too.
my scientific "geek" and curious side is intrigued and would want to try it... but then the repulsion kicks in again.
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daniel-p
I think it has more to do with viewing humans as a food product. Most people are fine with seeing certain animals as food products (depending on cultures, of course), but the only culture that views humans themselves as food products or producing a product are cannibals.
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Why are we repulsed at the though to consuming human milk?
by Elsewhere ini saw a story this morning about a guy who is making cheese using his wife's breast milk.. i checked a poll and 80% of people think this is gross.
i must admit there is a part of me that is repulsed too.
my scientific "geek" and curious side is intrigued and would want to try it... but then the repulsion kicks in again.
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daniel-p
The thought of drinking breast milk from my own mother at this point is disgusting enough, but from an unrelated woman? I'm sure there is a lot of psychology going on here, but the fact is, its disgusting and I think society will always see it that way... except for the freaks who eat placentas and stuff like that.
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Camels werent domesticated during Abraham's time?
by cyberjesus inone of the many factors that made me loose faith in the bible was the fact that camels were not domesticated during abrahams era.
i read this on the book "the bible unearthead".
do you know of any other evidence that shows camels were domesticated after 1000 bce.
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daniel-p
Of all the things that could make you lose faith in the Bible as God's Word.... wow.
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Liberals, Atheists Just Plain Smarter - Religious Conservatives Really Just Paranoid Cavemen
by daniel-p inlet the flame wars begin!
liberalism, atheism, male sexual exclusivity linked to iq.
by elizabeth landau, cnnfebruary 26, 2010 5:03 p.m. est(cnn) -- political, religious and sexual behaviors may be reflections of intelligence, a new study finds.. evolutionary psychologist satoshi kanazawa at the the london school of economics and political science correlated data on these behaviors with iq from a large national u.s. sample and found that, on average, people who identified as liberal and atheist had higher iqs.
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daniel-p
Its too bad Daniel p that you don't respect the forum guidelines, I'm glad most here do
I didn't go against any forum guidelines, at least not the ones posted below (Posting Guidelines). Besides, I've seen your comments to others regarding this obsession of yours, and you told another guy that his thread should be in politics when it was most clearly not political. So you are not only obsessed with something nearly everyone does, you do not know what the heck youre talking about
Besides, there are so many miscategorized threads all over this site, any attempt you make here at harrassing is completely pointless. Get a life.
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Liberals, Atheists Just Plain Smarter - Religious Conservatives Really Just Paranoid Cavemen
by daniel-p inlet the flame wars begin!
liberalism, atheism, male sexual exclusivity linked to iq.
by elizabeth landau, cnnfebruary 26, 2010 5:03 p.m. est(cnn) -- political, religious and sexual behaviors may be reflections of intelligence, a new study finds.. evolutionary psychologist satoshi kanazawa at the the london school of economics and political science correlated data on these behaviors with iq from a large national u.s. sample and found that, on average, people who identified as liberal and atheist had higher iqs.
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It's politics religion and sex! Wow!
lol, yep. Sometimes I think CNN commissions these studies JUST so they can have something that will incite a reaction.