Posts by PoppyR

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Out of the Mouth of Babes...

by RichieRich in

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so this week on the service meeting there was a part in the km about divine education.

true to form, it was another anti-college, pro-pioneering propaganda piece put out by our buddies in brooklyn.. in the third paragraph, it babbled forth about how colleges and universities don't teach people to overcome racism, tribalism, and something else.

(someone please post scan on dec. 2005 km front page).

PoppyR

I don't believe this exist in Europe but don't quote me on that.

Ooops.. sorry already quoted you! But yes it does, at least in the UK, it was at one point considered to be the really spiritual people that did it, and funnily enough I'm sure those kids had a MUCH higher incidence of going off the rails as soon as they did have any kind of association with the world. I have a very good friend who was home schooled and says it was the worst thing that could have happened and left him totally unprepared for life when he had to get a job and support his family. Yes school is tough, but so is life, and I think school teaches kids all sorts of valuable lessons and surprisingly kids that are well adjusted and loved at home can deal with most of them pretty well. My boys have just finished for the Christmas holidays and for the first time ever stayed at school right up to the last day (previously I would self righteously keep them off because of all the christmas activities) but they had a fab time and even though they still believe the dubs, they really enjoyed the party food etc!!!

Poppy x

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My wife caught me and in bed!!!!!!

by evergreen in

new that would catch your attention.. yes its true folks , my wife caught me in bed reading notes that i had written down about raymond franzes book crises of conscience.

she is a staunch follower of the borg and i have now been inactive for about 2 years.. i wrote about 30 pages of notes from this book as the only place i could get my hands on one was from the library.

i couldnt order one as i was so afraid of her finding out i was reading "apostate " material.. she asked me what i was reading and said it was er just some notes i had written .

PoppyR

evergreen, I have been in a very similar situation, I was first thrilled that my husband seemd to be listening to what i was telling him but then massively dissapointed when he went to an elder about the 607 thing and totally swallowed what he had been told. It reinforced to me that people aren't ready til they're ready!! I have had a similar experience with a very close friend who has stopped speaking to me, labelled me an apostate within minutes of our last lunch date, because I said I felt disfellowshipping wasn't right. It's a delicate balance, you may be one of the lucky ones and she may see the light, but unfortunately many here are married to very devout dubs and have to live with the situation. But dont underestimate her loyalty to the collective.. And if you are trying to fade rather than be d'ad with all it's difficulties, then best keep a low profile for a while!

Thinking of you!

Poppy xx

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SERVICE REPORT 2005 : WATCHTOWER FEB 1ST 2006

by BluesBrother in

i have had a quick look and found no references to this, so - here goes..as in the mag we picked up on sunday.. worldwide % increase over 2004 = 1.3%.

memorial partakers 8524 (compared to 8570 in 2004).

most european and nth american lands show pretty static figs - britain 1% increase, canada 0%, germany 0%, france 1%, usa 0%... but spare a thought for the inhabitants of zambia where 1 person in 90 is a reporting witness, must be hell going down to the local market!

PoppyR

I do have the WT and a scanner, but not sure on the uploading it onto a website so you can view it thing, if you PM me I can email it to you, or if someone can tell me a website I can upload it to (free of course, I'm tight!) then I'm happy to oblige!! But in UK, so going to bed shortly, sorry!

Poppy xxxx

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SERVICE REPORT 2005 : WATCHTOWER FEB 1ST 2006

by BluesBrother in

i have had a quick look and found no references to this, so - here goes..as in the mag we picked up on sunday.. worldwide % increase over 2004 = 1.3%.

memorial partakers 8524 (compared to 8570 in 2004).

most european and nth american lands show pretty static figs - britain 1% increase, canada 0%, germany 0%, france 1%, usa 0%... but spare a thought for the inhabitants of zambia where 1 person in 90 is a reporting witness, must be hell going down to the local market!

PoppyR

sorry for the constant posts but someone said 300, 000?? That maybe a baptised figure, check out average publishers which is much more telling.

81,675, so again, out of the 247,631 baptised, they lost... nearly 166,000..

Total worldwide hours were down by.. wait for it. 4,032,902

Bible studies down by 23,841

Memorial attendance down by 377,274

Much more telling statistics.

Poppy xx

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SERVICE REPORT 2005 : WATCHTOWER FEB 1ST 2006

by BluesBrother in

i have had a quick look and found no references to this, so - here goes..as in the mag we picked up on sunday.. worldwide % increase over 2004 = 1.3%.

memorial partakers 8524 (compared to 8570 in 2004).

most european and nth american lands show pretty static figs - britain 1% increase, canada 0%, germany 0%, france 1%, usa 0%... but spare a thought for the inhabitants of zambia where 1 person in 90 is a reporting witness, must be hell going down to the local market!

PoppyR

Just noticed something else.. pioneer pubs down from 10,576 to 7,183!!!That surely is almost a third of the pioneers in one year???

And somehow 652 into 121,166 is no where near 1% Thank goodness for rounding up eh!!

And during the year spending on missionaries went up over 11 million... hmmmmm.

Poppy xx

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SERVICE REPORT 2005 : WATCHTOWER FEB 1ST 2006

by BluesBrother in

i have had a quick look and found no references to this, so - here goes..as in the mag we picked up on sunday.. worldwide % increase over 2004 = 1.3%.

memorial partakers 8524 (compared to 8570 in 2004).

most european and nth american lands show pretty static figs - britain 1% increase, canada 0%, germany 0%, france 1%, usa 0%... but spare a thought for the inhabitants of zambia where 1 person in 90 is a reporting witness, must be hell going down to the local market!

PoppyR

I know for a fact the english language congregations are showing no increase in Britain, I personally feel the vast majority of ACTUAL new ones that is not young ones baptised are from the foreign language fields, and most of those because who wouldn't want to move to a new country and be immediately swallowed up by lovely friendly people??? My sister pioneers in the Albanian congregation and they have people flooding in.

I found this statistic interesting.. 652 more AVERAGE pubs, yet we had 2435 baptised... seems like at least 3 times as many people left as joined?? Overall hours were down, as were bible studies and memorial attendance.. something fishy in those numbers doesn't anybody else think!!

Poppy xx

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Anyone Related to Anyone Famous?

by stevieb1 in

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anyone related to any actors, actresses, writers, politicians etc either alive or dead?.

PoppyR

My fathers sister is a very famous UK author.. Iris Gower. And absolutely loaded, but because of my father being Dfed when I was just a baby, I hardly know her and I'm gutted about it because I think we would have got on, my mum says all she used to do was sit and read books and not clean the house.. now that's my kind of woman..lol.

Poppy xx

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SMALL NEWS: Smaller than the Ad Matt at your local diner!!!!

by Eyebrow2 in

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sorry...there are just so many threads related to the "big news", reaction to the big news, and lastly reaction to the reaction to the big news...just couldn't help myself.. how about some fluff...just for a few minutes.

fluff can be good.. so, whatcha all doing today?

xmas shopping?

PoppyR

you have under-hyped your news! this disappoints me!

This is honestly the best laugh I've had all day. And why I love this site.

Thanks guys, for keeping it real!!!

Poppy xx

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GET REAL PEOPLE !!

by Simon in

do some of you expect?!?!.

i am extremely disappointed to read some people's comments about the latest news.

it is one thing to express and opinion, perhaps that you think it isn't as big as you imagined (one wonders what you imagined) but it is another to be downright insulting to people who have put a lot of time and effort into this.. get real.

PoppyR

I think (for what it's worth!) that nobody slagged off the people who brought the news, mainly the manner it was built up to be so HUGE. and actually.. although it is important, it wont change anything in the organisation, apart from maybe their legal policy on blood. I for one was dissapointed when I read it, just a personal opinion, and I dont think all this bottom licking that's going on is necessary. We are adults, we are here because we disagreed with a massive brainwashing organisation and got out... so quite rightly we are sceptics, critics and like to question EVERYTHING. I can see both sides of the argument, but not the need to blast someone for giving their opinion if it's different to your own, we have.. or should have stepped very far away from that.

Poppy x

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there may be many like defd

by justicehope in

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i am a bit nervous making a reply.

i find it a bit challenging to gather my thoughts and express them in the written forum, but her goes!

i have been coming to this site for years.

PoppyR

Personally I also like hearing both sides, and the fact that often when I read the 'debates' I can clearly see the flaws in the JW argument just cement my ever growing non-faith. I think this site would be very boring without ones who can put across the JW point of view and have it torn to shreds!!

Poppy x