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  Do you speak to currant members of the JW's

  by silversurfer1 in

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  many on this site have describe their exiting this group as "fading".

  which i believe allows one to maintain some civil contact and or association with friends and family.

  it probably helps when running into jw's in ones normal routine of life.

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  It's weird isn't it. I have 'faded' pretty much, but some JWs cut me dead when they see me, some pretend they haven't seen me. Either is fine with me, I understand WHY they do it and unlike some here would not disrespect them by trying to make them speak to me, why bother? They will only feel more right and more self righteous. When I was a JW I did not speak to disfellowshipped ones and I thought I was totally right.

  Sometimes when I see JWs I try and avoid them, sometimes I still feel guilty if I have a tattoo on show or a short skirt.. isn't it mad? I think it would be easier to move to where you did not know anyone! But for me I have been brought up in this town so most days will bump into someone. Mostly I smile and say a cheery hello, and most of them are fine too. But you know what.. I dont really mind if they do or not. My REAL friends will always be there for me. If the day comes my family cut me off, then that will be hard, but most of us have been there, most of us know it's not the way they really feel, it's a false sense of loyalty

  Poppy
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  Not DF'd or shunned?

  by girasole in

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  has anyone else found that they were not treated as expected when they .

  " i was threatened and guilted and the whole gamut but i was .

  never disfellowshipped or counseled or even so much as visited by the .

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  I did plan my fade rather well (even if I do say so myself ) But I was also prepared to be d/fed as I could not pretend to believe the lies. I initally stopped all field service, then became hit and miss at meetings, then much more miss than hit.

  Finally I stopped, at this point I told the family I had not been ill, I wasn't going anymore. I also had some discussions with them about 607 and the UN, which in retrospect was stupid but I had to speak! I had one call from one elder, who asked if he could help, seemed relieved when I said I was fine and that's been it for over a year.

  I recently found out that a witness saw me in a bar smoking, and told my brother (who is an elder). Nothing was ever said. Which makes me presume they are not out to try and disfellowship me and as long as I keep my head down I might complete the fade. I am also currently in the process of divorcing my JW husband and am in another relationship, my mum told me they would love to meet my now boyfriend, but cannot 'condone' it while I am still married. In some ways this still hurts, but in others is quite a relief, it means they will accept me and him, but just want things to appear 'right'.

  My mum is pained by it all, and recently brought up to me that someone had said I looked much more at peace than I previously had. I said I had to be honest with her and say it was the biggest relief of my life to not go anymore and I was never going back. She is hurt, but I think she accepts my decision. I just hope beyond hope that in time I can be there if any of my family also want to leave. I know it's not the right time to be planting seeds in their minds and I have to wait for them to come to me.

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  Describing the meetings

  by slimboyfat in

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  has anyone ever written a thick description of a witness meeting?.

  i think i am going to give it a go.

  slim.

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  its one of the few places where watching a moth bang itself to death on a lightbulb is interesting and you even envy the moth.

  LMAO This is the best description by far. So many times I've watched the progress of a bee, or a spider. When i was a child I remember genuinely believing that time went more slowly in the meetings and wishing with all my heart it would go as fast as when I was playing! Sometimes now I forget what day it is, and I catch sight of the brothers in their suits and ties and my heart bleeds for them! SO good to be out. Poppy
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  Did You Ever "Tell Off" An Elder or Circuit Overseer?

  by minimus in

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  i know of very few that would "dare" tell off a co but elders were different.

  having been an elder for many years, it was very easy to go back and forth with a fellow elder and basically tell him he was dumb.

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  I once had a run in with an elder who was far too 'touchy feely' for my liking, always used to insist on shaking everyones hands on the way into the hall and with the sisters, it often turned into a hug. I didn't get the impression he was friendly, more he was lecherous.

  He used to make fun of the fact I wouldn't shake his hand, and eventually I told him I thought his behaviour was innapropriate, and if someone didn't feel comfortable being touched by him, it was tantamount to abuse that he kept on doing so. He took it on the chin actually and apologised, but I think most felt I'd made an issue out of nothing.

  2 years later he ran off with a 16 year old school girl from the congregation.
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  The most annoying issues you found within the organization were ...

  by The wanderer in

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  untitled document <!-- .style1 {font-family: verdana} .style2 {font-family: verdana; font-style: italic; } --> the things that seemed to bother us the most before leaving the organization there were a number of.

  things that used to bother me within the organization.. for example, the time that the organization use to.

  absorb, it seemed that i gave more than i received.

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  My boss was a jerk, his boss was a jerk. I found out I was working for a company of jerks

  LMAO..

  I love these threads because it reminds me how happy I am to be out.

  I hate the way they are so NEGATIVE about people in the world. I've found many 'worldly' people to be shockingly nice, friendly, caring and loving, unlike many JWs.
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  Interesting, I wonder if this will apply to JW's too?

  by BritBoy in

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  cold calling exclusion zones are springing up across the uk as householders try to deter door-to-door callers, including the latest strain of doorstep "seller" - the charity fundraiser.. the town centre has become their roaming ground, but lately, or so it seems, those insistent young fundraisers known to many as chuggers - charity muggers - have moved from high street to side street..... .

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/5341696.stm.

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  I read this and wondered if it would affect the witnesses too. It's mainly talking about charity workers.

  funny though, since I stopped going door to door, I have become very intolerant of people cold calling me!

  I'm just so glad I dont have to do it anymore!!

  Poppy
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  What are your reasons for not joining another religion?

  by MARTINLEYSHON in

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  i am going to start this debate of by saying that those of us who were raised in the so called truth, and i being one of them, can only come to terms with our past by accepting that our parents infected our minds like a virus infects a computer.

  we wouldn't categorise children according to their parents' political stance, since they are too young to make up their minds about such matters.

  but they (jw) segregate them from the world.

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  Yep, Jesus and I have a close personal relationship. Sometimes we just hang out and shoot hoops. I tell ya he's one good friend. It turns out we both dated the same girl in high school.

  W.Once

  Lol at this... I hate it when people talk about being 'close' and 'personal' with an entity that has never communicated with them, they cant see, and has no feelings for the rest of the poor suffering mankind only YOU, because you put lots of exclamation marks in your sentences!!!!! You might as well say you are close and personal with Elvis. (At least his music touched me!)

  How can you possibly have a relationship with Jesus? And this is rhetorical, because I'm sure you would have an answer, but it would not make sense to me. My close and personal relationships are with beings I can get close and personal with.

  So no religion is not for me, I cannot be swept along with emotion for a god that allows the world to be like this (if he/she is even there)

  Poppy x
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  Is it easy to fade...???

  by Balaams Ass in

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  any comments or advice gratefully recieved.

  diehard pioneer wife etc...

  ba

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  I'm a new fader (only about 7 months out) although I have told my family I'm not going (at the moment). Rather than play the depression thing. I also raised a few questions with them. I feel they know which way my heart is now because they just never speak to me about the 'troof'. I'm sure behind closed doors there are whispers about my apostasy! I've had one elders visit. And I just told him I had to re-affirm my faith, because I had been baptised way too young and had no idea what I was getting into.

  I have been shunned by cong members, which just proves to me how little love there is. I am not DAd, not DFd, and have no visible signs of a lifestyle that would lead to that, yet they decide to do that to me off their own backs. However I really dont care, I dont want association with those people, and my former friends have proven their loyalty by cutting off association with me. I am doing it for the family.

  I can see and sometimes crave the freedom in being DAd. But that is not what I want, however if it came to a JC I would not be attending.

  Good luck, it's a long slow road, but you will probably find you will be surprised how little bother you get when you stop. I think the BOE are just too busy trying to hold it all together!

  Poppy
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  Special Talk 4/30/06- Your thoughts on it-Jehovah being in Control

  by architect in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  from what it sounded like the special talk was another whose side are you on jehovah's or satans.. from the beginning the speaker said there is no new information!

  he said "if youre not for jehovah then youre for satan- case closed!".

  he also mentioned that jehovah has always had control of his creation!

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  I was invited to the talk by my mother! But politely declined, and forgot all about it until I saw the post here. Sounds like every other 'special' talk we've had for the past 100 years.

  Every day I just thank my lucky stars I'm out.

  Poppy
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  Digg it folks!! Help me raise awareness for my website!

  by SickofLies in

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  http://digg.com/links/new_documentary_exposes_witnesses

  kw13 has set this up for me in order to help get exposure outside our little circle.

  he will explain more!

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  Just Dugg