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  What is your purpose here?

  by The Scotsman in

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  it is interesting to read the posts here.

  people desperately trying to convince themselves that they were right to give up!.

  is this your purpose in coming here????.

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  PoppyR

  I'm sure you will have many replies! but if your question is sincere, here is my honest answer.

  I was raised a JW. Baptised at 13, regular pioneered from 16 to 23 when I had children, became very disillusioned with the lack of love, the farcical trust in what MEN had to say (not god) ie if a circuit overseer says it, it must be true. I also got very down and tired with the DRY meetings and the constant never doing enough. And I lived through the end being promised in 1975, 1984, and the change in generation thought to cover their own asses.

  I arrived here because I was trying to research 607. It shook me to my very roots to find the date was nowhere in history except in the JW minds, and that they had lied, covered up, misinterpreted to try and decieve their followers. So I stayed, and learned, and grew strong enough to realise I did not need a religion that acted like this.

  That was almost a year ago!! Now I come, because I find only other x-jws totally understand what it was like to survive that. And I love the humour and the fun, and unlike JWs I like to keep an open mind, examine what others have to say and see what I consider to be true.

  I think it's patronising to say I feel sorry for you, but I do, because I was you, if I was approached by an 'apostate' a couple of years ago I would have recoiled in horror, but you need to ask yourself why is it so dangerous to talk to people who have other opinions? What are the society frightened of? Why would they disfellowship me if I said I no longer believed, even though I made that decision at age 13?

  If you think you will change peoples minds here you are so wrong, this will provoke a really interesting post, and many intelligent people will reply and it will reaffirm over and over that my eyes are finally opened. So thanks for your post.

  Poppy
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  Dubs out with kn37

  by fullofdoubtnow in

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  i just took the dog a walk, and saw 4 dubs at the top of our street, trying to place kn37.

  this is, of course, the first official day of thecampaign, so i expext to see a few more of them than usual over the next few days, but it's not often i see them at this time of day (3:10pm when i spotted them).

  they all know me, and when they saw me walking towards them with the dog, who does admittedly look a bit fearsome, being a pit bull/staffordshire bull terrier cross, they looked a little nervous, as if they thought i was going to set him on to them.

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  My first thought was that it reminded me of the Armageddon tract, too. I'm afraid you're a little bit out with thinking that it was only 15 years old, though

  Damn, that is definitely dementia setting in when you think things are a lot younger than they are (all the policemen look about 17 nowadays too!)

  I suppose you're right, I used to distribute that tract when I was first regular pioneering, and I left school in 1985.

  My excuse is all the brain washing made me lose several years!

  Poppy
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  Paperback Bible

  by PoppyR in

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  2. scandals

  my mum proudly showed me the latest development, a cheap horrible paperback bible, she said how great it was to be able to turn the pages so easily!!

  how do the dubs do it?

  get people excited over making things cheaper and nastier.

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  My mum proudly showed me the latest development, a cheap horrible paperback bible, she said how great it was to be able to turn the pages so easily!! How do the dubs do it? Get people excited over making things cheaper and nastier.

  I just commented on the money saving aspect and also how little time it would take to get wrecked. I find it hard not to be mean about it!

  Has anyone else seen them?

  Poppy
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  Were YOU A Mindless Witness?

  by minimus in

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  were you on automatic pilot?

  did you consider yourself a "stepford" family member?

  did you do everything you were told to do, automatically??

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  No! Looking back the seeds were always there. I started by having my nose pierced, then I would wear trousers to the meetings. I think the brothers just rolled their eyes and thought I was a rebel, but I hated doing things just because a MAN (read person, I'm not a man hater!) had said it was right or wrong.

  I was counselled about my nose piercing and told I could not pioneer. I took it out. But within a couple of months I had it done again. I vividly remember one of my last meetings the brother giving so much personal opinion it was all I could do not to stand up and shout about it.

  Mindless in the sense I believed it, but not spineless!!

  Poppy
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  Where have you found JW literature?

  by Funchback in

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  so, yesterday i'm at bally's (a fitness center) and i'm about to get on the treadmill.

  i decided to check out their magazine rack.

  let's see...'bicycling', 'sports illustrated', 'a2z', and about 10 watchtower and awakes.

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  Dont know about you guys, but I find the literature gives me the creeps now! My brother left a new awake for my son this week, and I literally picked it up between thumb and forefinger as if it had disease all over it and put it straight in the bin!! I just think it's poison, and any chance I got to remove it from public places I would, although I think most people looking at it would just think how nutty JWs really are.

  Poppy
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  TIME FOR ANOTHER LAUGH!

  by Dansk in

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  don't step on the ducks !!

  three women die together in an accident and go to heaven.

  when they get there, st. peter says, "we only have one rule here in heaven: don't step on the ducks!

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  A woman looks out onto the street and sees a really long funeral procession.

  At the front a gorgeous widow holding a dog on a lead. Behind her two coffins, behind them a long line of women snaking away as far as the eye could see.

  Unable to resist, the first woman goes up to the widow and says "I'm so sorry for your loss, what happened here?"

  The widow explains.. the first coffin is my husband, the dog attacked him and killed him, the second coffin is my mother in law, she stepped in to help and the dog killed her too.

  A profound moment of silence passed between the two women. The first woman then said to the widow:

  "Can I borrow the dog?"

  The widow replied "Get in line"

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  Dubs out with kn37

  by fullofdoubtnow in

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  2. friends

  i just took the dog a walk, and saw 4 dubs at the top of our street, trying to place kn37.

  this is, of course, the first official day of thecampaign, so i expext to see a few more of them than usual over the next few days, but it's not often i see them at this time of day (3:10pm when i spotted them).

  they all know me, and when they saw me walking towards them with the dog, who does admittedly look a bit fearsome, being a pit bull/staffordshire bull terrier cross, they looked a little nervous, as if they thought i was going to set him on to them.

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  My mum gave me one, and didn't like the fact that I grinned and said it looked almost exactly like one we had about 15 years ago entitled 'Armageddon' with lightning and dark colours all over it. She is one of those who thinks it's really different and it's the start of the end... sighs.

  Haven't seen any out with it today, but then they are unlikely to call on me as I've only been out about a year.

  All these fabulous campaigns, has anyone actually become a JW because of them?

  Oh yes.. I'm forgetting the street cleaner who picked the tract up from the gutter!!!! Silly me

  Poppy
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  How long did your exit process take?

  by StillGroggy in

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  2. experiences

  this has probably been posted before, but i'm new here.

  for those who daed or dfed, how long did your exit take and why?.

  i'm trying to figure out how long it'll take me to get out.. thanks.

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  Just noticed that I have been on this forum almost a year (in 11 days time!) And that day was the first time I had real doubts that the troof was not really the truth! I had already started missing meetings, 30 October was my last one, after that I never put in another report, I had one elders visit, which I feel was obligatory, I fobbed them off saying I had doubts and needed to work through things.

  It took me about 3 or 4 months to really believe that I had been wrong for 36 years. another couple to not shiver when people mentioned Armageddon. Nowadays I just roll my eyes and cannot believe I believed it.

  I think I'm almost there, I'm in a bit of a delicate situation with a divorce from my JW husband, but if I can get through the next few months I think my fade will have been sucessful, of course I have learned from the forum that at any point I could be DFed, but I feel the elders need to be feeling vindictive, or I need to be causing problems for this to happen now.

  Of course if you want to DA.. it can be done in a week! I sometimes envy that freedom, but love and want my family too much to do it at present.

  Good luck with whatever you decide.

  Poppy xx
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  Veil Wearing Moslems v Cross Wearing Christians

  by Clam in

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  things are getting nuttier here in the so called "united" kingdom.

  we now have a female moslem classroom assistant who has been suspended from her place of work because she insists on wearing a veil in class.

  bizarrely she works in a church of england school and at the interview wore no veil while being interveiwed by a man.

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  My mum is using this veil wearing stuff as proof armageddon is nigh!!! She said to me this morning that it was in the news every day. I just raised my eyebrows and reminded her there was a similar hoo haa about 6 months ago when muslim girls were suspended from school.

  As to not being able to understand a veiled woman, it's total garbage, I worked with a muslim girl who wore the full veil, and I understood her conversation perfectly, as did everyone else. I do feel everyone should be able to express themselves in the way they want. why should we have the right to dictate? I personally highly respected her. She was a gorgeous young girl who covered herself up totally because of her beliefs. It's not my choice, but I admire the dedication.

  Surely it's better to show children that we can accept people from all different beliefs and cultures?

  Poppy
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  Awkward moment Tuesday night

  by Jourles in

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  on tuesday night, i took an elbow to the nose while playing volleyball.

  a guy i play with is an er doctor and recommended i go to the er just to make sure everything was ok. turned out i had a "nasal fracture with contusion.

  " anyways, while talking with the admissions lady, one of the questions she asked me was, "any religion or church you want me to put you down as affiliated with?

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  Does feel weird doesn't it, I had to swear a legal oath, and the court person asked me if I wanted to swear on the bible or take a 'non religious' oath, I opted for non religious. It did feel strange, but after all I've learned, I didn't feel it right to swear on the bible! (not knocking those of you that do)

  Poppy x