Things are getting nuttier here in the so called "United" Kingdom. We now have a female moslem classroom assistant who has been suspended from her place of work because she insists on wearing a veil in class. Bizarrely she works in a Church of England school and at the interview wore no veil while being interveiwed by a man. Now she says she will only take her veil off in class as long as no men are around. Then we have British Airways suspending an employee for insisting on openly wearing a cross, which supposedly will offend non christian customers; and vampires possibly. If it wasn't so tragic it would be laughable.
Veil Wearing Moslems v Cross Wearing Christians
by Clam 23 Replies latest social current
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Zico
She was asked to remove the veil because the students said it made it hard to understand her. - Good sense really.
Veils are just silly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPc65cYtFjI -
Gill
I personally find the 'veil', meaning the full face covered veil only allowing the eyes to peep out, very offensive!
It appears to say that women should be 'onlookers' in life only, despite what any extremist muslim woman may think it means.
I also believe it has become an 'empowering terrorist look- a- like chic' for some young moslem girls in non muslim countries. They're just screaming out by their style of dress, 'everyone look at me!!!' Much as a young non- muslim girl may go around in very tight or very revealing clothing! Sheer attention seeking!
As for the women who may be sacked from her teaching job - it's her own fault for discriminating against men.
As for the BA lady, who simply wore a tiny cross, after going on a 'tolerance' course by BA, well - I think that simply says a lot about BA!
The UK is in a state of flux at the moment over these religious 'statements'. With discussion and time we will have to come to a balanced decision, whether we follow the example of France or not. But the full veil cannot be tolerated as it is discriminatory against everyone.
Also, how the hell do these women think it's all right to drive in one of these contraptions.
I was in the building society when a very irate man was complaining how his car was crashed into by a woman driving wearing a full veil, only a bit of eyes peeping out. Her friend was also fully veiled. He felt they couldn't see properly where they were going and that's why they pulled out right in front of him.
Time the damned full face veil was banned, except for in their own homes!
After being knocked flying in the local Asda by a tall, young Muslim woman in a full veiled get up, but underneath, jeans and builders boots I was slightly irritated. After going out in the car park and having to go the long way round the pavement onto the road, because a Muslim man had just ripped up a card board box and started praying 'on the spot', I lost tolerance for the Muslim faith!
Grow up!! It's the twenty first century!
Do I sound slightly intolerant?
Well maybe they're the intolerant ones and I've been annoyed once two much.
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poppers
Veils and crosses are physical symbols which help support one's self-identity. People whose identity is based largely on religion find comfort in them, for they remind themselves and others "who they are". They are ways of avoiding truly discovering what they really are beyond the confines of religious identity. To be deprived of them threatens that identity. It's sad when you think about it.
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Dansk
People whose identity is based largely on religion find comfort in them
There was a Muslim man on Question Time (BBC) last week and he said the veil is not stipulated in the Koran, so is NOT religious, but is a cultural dress.
Ian
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poppers
OK Dansk, but the effect is the same, they give one a sense of identity, whether that identity is based on religion or culture.
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bubble
May I say that I would not be allowed to wear a cross around my neck for work. In fact I'm not allowed to wear any jewelry except for a watch, wedding band and stud earrings. It's not a problem for me or any of my colleagues because we understand that we look far more professional this way.
The woman who works for British Airways should GET A LIFE. Wear what you want out of work but do what your employers ask of you in their time - they are paying your wages after all. -
roybatty
I personally find the 'veil', meaning the full face covered veil only allowing the eyes to peep out, very offensive!
I couldn't agree with you more.
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Dansk
they give one a sense of identity
What identity? When they wear the veil they go around unidentified!
Ian
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poppers
"What identity? When they wear the veil they go around unidentified!" Identity is identity, whether it's ass-backwards or not!