Posts by PoppyR

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Do you know of any "baptized" JW's single sisters that got "pregnant"?

by booker-t in

i was just curious about this question.

when i was a jw i remember a young baptized sister that got pregnant and she was unmarried.

i was waiting for the elders to either disfellowship her or reprove her but nothing happened to her.

PoppyR

I do. The story goes,or should I say HER story goes.. this sister falls into bad association goes out clubbing with her new friends, who were witnesses. Somehow through the night she gets separated, raped, gets pregnant, doesnt tell a soul til she finds out she's pregnant then the rape story comes out, never reported to the police, she didn't even seem slightly traumatised, and I think just about everybody thought she had gone out, had sex, got pregnant and couldn't really pretend it was immaculate conception so said she had been raped, of course nobody could dispute it and no action was taken by the cong. Everybody in the cong gossiped but her family rallied round (course it was elders family) and she had the baby, and is now a single mother. One thing I hated was the double standards!!!

Poppy xx

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OOps think i opened the floodgates (and I dont mean heaven)

by PoppyR in

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so... last night i had the dreaded conversation with my mother.

she phoned and asked if she could 'help' me with the truth.

i just could not pretend any more i was missing meetings cos i was depressed or any other reason, i just told her i was having doubts about the whole thing and did not see the point in leading a double life and 'limping along'.

PoppyR

it is VERY hard not to say all the new things I've learned, but to do that.. makes it obvious to them that I am having more than just doubts! It's such a tightrope to walk, I hadn't actually intended being so open, but now I have, I'm glad. Just I have a brother that's an elder, another brother thats a ministerial servant and a pioneer, a sister thats a pioneer where the need is greater.. and I just know I am going to have to deal with them all one at a time. But I'd rather do it in an upfront way. And hopefully be clever enough not to be D/fed along the way. That is unless anyone SPOTS me on my corner, but I thought the long red curly wig might help.

Poppy x

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OOps think i opened the floodgates (and I dont mean heaven)

by PoppyR in

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so... last night i had the dreaded conversation with my mother.

she phoned and asked if she could 'help' me with the truth.

i just could not pretend any more i was missing meetings cos i was depressed or any other reason, i just told her i was having doubts about the whole thing and did not see the point in leading a double life and 'limping along'.

PoppyR

Obviously I did go straight onto the corner. it's second nature now! I also lit up a cigarette, invited all my new wordly friends round for an orgy and drew a pentagram on the floor....

poppy x

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New JW Calendar

by stillajwexelder in

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just thought you would all be delighted to know, the new jw calendar for 2006 are out - quite good actually

PoppyR

First time ever this year I did not order any calenders and instead bought ones that make me laugh. they have given me so much pleasure. Last year I defaced the JW one I had, because they had a picture in it of a brother I used to pioneer with who was the biggest hypocrite in the world, is now married and in Bethel, and the picture was about singleness...lol! So I drew a beard and moustache on it and was castigated by the brother who came to shepherd us and spotted it!! If he only saw what I did to the one upstairs!

Poppy x

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OOps think i opened the floodgates (and I dont mean heaven)

by PoppyR in

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so... last night i had the dreaded conversation with my mother.

she phoned and asked if she could 'help' me with the truth.

i just could not pretend any more i was missing meetings cos i was depressed or any other reason, i just told her i was having doubts about the whole thing and did not see the point in leading a double life and 'limping along'.

PoppyR

So... last night I had the dreaded conversation with my mother. She phoned and asked if she could 'help' me with the truth. I just could not pretend any more I was missing meetings cos I was depressed or any other reason, I just told her I was having doubts about the whole thing and did not see the point in leading a double life and 'limping along'. She brought out all the old lines. But for once I was clear and concise. She told me the dangers of apostate thinking that I needed to pray for help to see the truth. I said I did not need to pray to know the sky was blue, it was true. Nobody could convince me it was green! So if the truth is true.. no worries. I carefully stayed away from any obvious 'apostate' views about 607 etc, and just said the society constantly moving the goalposts on the time of the end had caused me to lose heart. She said I was blind if I could not see how the world was and how close we are.. and I said with respect, I think you've been telling me that since I was born, and although there is a lot of badness in the world, strangely there is also a lot of goodness!! Which JWs love to ignore. Then the old line that Satan was out to trap me and without the restraints of the truth I would be falling into serious sin.. ahem. So I said did she think that the only thing keeping me faithful to my husband for example was fear of dying or being disfellowshipped? Without those of course I have no morals and will just turn immediately into a hooker!! Aarrgggh. I feel a great deal better in some ways, but know I have now opened the door to all the family and elders that she will go to to 'help' me. I finished it (when she was crying) by saying if she really loved me then she would see how happy i was and I had never been happy while in the truth, and she grudgingly acknowledged it. Although I dont want to be disfellowshipped I feel a lot better for being 'out'.

Poppy x

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The GREAT tribulation

by PoppyR in

does anyone else remember horror stories about the great tribulation and what they would do to the witnesses etc.. i remember this being the big topic of conversation for years, then like lots of jw doctrine, they quietly swept it out of the arena, and now it's never mentioned.

i remember pioneering with a girl who couldn't sleep at night and kept praying she'd be strong enough to endure it!

i actually have a talk on tape from a member of the gb where he spoke about ministers swinging from lamposts.. gruesome or what!!

PoppyR

A couple of years back they did a census here in the UK and for the first time a question about religion. And there was a lot of talk in the congregation that it was a 'test of faith' that we could just wimp out and put Christian, or we could stand up and be counted and put 'Jehovahs witness' but this of course would point us straight out in the tribulation!! I put Christian! But all your replies have really brought it all back to me! So weird looking in from the outside and all the things that should have been obvious just weren't and are now like flashing lights and sirens!

Poppy xxx

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The GREAT tribulation

by PoppyR in

does anyone else remember horror stories about the great tribulation and what they would do to the witnesses etc.. i remember this being the big topic of conversation for years, then like lots of jw doctrine, they quietly swept it out of the arena, and now it's never mentioned.

i remember pioneering with a girl who couldn't sleep at night and kept praying she'd be strong enough to endure it!

i actually have a talk on tape from a member of the gb where he spoke about ministers swinging from lamposts.. gruesome or what!!

PoppyR

Does anyone else remember horror stories about the great tribulation and what they would do to the witnesses etc.. I remember this being the big topic of conversation for years, then like lots of JW doctrine, they quietly swept it out of the arena, and now it's never mentioned. I remember pioneering with a girl who couldn't sleep at night and kept praying she'd be strong enough to endure it! I actually have a talk on tape from a member of the GB where he spoke about ministers swinging from lamposts.. gruesome or what!! Looking back was this just another mind control method, that has since been dropped because newer ones just wouldn't hack it!

Poppy x

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cordelias first ever birthday!

by Cordelia in

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hey i keep forgetting but its my birthday tomorrow!.

18th november i will be the big 30 (and i look about 11!).

i really wanted tobe completely open and celebrate it properly i never dreamt i'd be still in the position of living a double life and hiding my true feelings from my family (see my other thread).

PoppyR

Happy Birthday! I have celebrated mine, but only with my 'wordly' friends for the past couple of years and I love it! Nothing like being the center of attention for the whole day! As to christmas, I have recently started a new job and today the boss said.. would you like to come out with us on the Christmas meal, and it felt so good to just say yes, and not have to give long fumbling excuses as to why I couldn't and I was a witness etc etc.. Feel fabulous to fit in at last! I always fitted in because I'm a popular fitting in kind of person, so I always found it very hard to then tell people I was a JW.. arrrgggghhh.. lol. no more!!

Poppy xxx

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Is recovery possible?

by gcc2k in

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hi guys.

i haven't posted here in a year or so, perhaps more.

i'm not sure what i want to say, and i'm not sure that i want to put it down, since the more info you give here, the easier it is to be spotted.

PoppyR

I totally sympathise with you, but think if you go back to the organisation you will quickly be out again, because now you have seen it for what it is. While I was leading a double life as a witness I did all sorts of things deliberately to stick my fingers up at the organisation, started off with the tiny thing of buying a lottery ticket, progressed as far as stealing from a store.. why? I think because I thought I was going to die anyway, what was the point. Since I have pulled away from the JWs I suddenly find my conscience re-appearing, and I think this is because now I genuinely want to be a better person for all the right reasons. I read here a few days ago about a youth group in a college that were christian and their morals, and thought if they were JW youths they would be the most debauched on the campus. Because our morality was imposed on us, not coming from within us. I know the WT sneer at people who say they have 'wordly' friends who have better morals than the JWs.. but I DO! And I admire them because they are genuine good people, not hypocrites.

I totally get the children thing, I feel you are WAY off from really feeling this organisation is not the truth, because if you felt it wasn't , why would you want them to go along? I SO wish my parents had given me the choice, you can raise them to be fine moral people, without worship of any kind. And without the horrible guilt and fear that go along with being a JW. I feel for you, but still think some part of your mind thinks this is 'the truth' so I empathise with your struggle. Hope it all works out, but remember the dog returning to the vomit illustration. Be a fine example to your children, and let your morals come from your own conscience. We all have one, and it's mighty fine when you let it talk to you.

Poppy x

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Did you record your hours in field service correctly?

by free2beme in

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i always hated the shepherding call where they asked you to try and spend more time in field service, as they saw your hours turned in were low.

at a young age, i learned how easy it was to just write down what ever felt right.

i spent about 30 hours a month in field service as a pioneer for two years and never had anyone say anything to me.

PoppyR

I would never have done this when I was a full blown witness.. what if I was smote down!!! (smote? smited??) But towards the end, just to keep the elders away I used to turn in a report every month of a few hours even though I hadn't been out. Funny this drifting thing though, I haven't put in a report for about 3 months now.. well more solid than that, I used to email the service overseer my report, and I email him now to say I haven't been out, but nothing has been said. Maybe they've finally given up!

Poppy