a few years before i left the jws for good, i broke off a relationship with my worldly girlfriend.
we were in love, but i ended it because i felt guilty and wanted to be a good dub.
then about three years after we broke up, i left the org.
oh man, did i ever... and it sucked.. sometimes it was out of fear of getting caught, other times it was out of fear that i would hurt that person... i mean no regrets now, i have the most amazing gf in the world now, but damn, some of those girls were fine too! LMAO... i wouldnt trade it all for the world now, and what the hell, i was seventeen, how serious can a relationship be at that point?
the infamous one
my old pic got 'spotted' here by some dubs...hmmm...wonder what they were doing here?.rahahahaha..anyway,no use in hiding it now..yep,its me..the goddess of wickedness!!!!!!!!
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maybe im missing something, but i dont see you at all !
the infamous one
sorry if i that is the wrong spelling.
i just want to say that i used to be judgemental of athiests, but as a jw backer everyone on here finds nothing but wrong doing with the orginizations.
well i am sure i can find wrong doing with other churches and their teachings as well.
you know vinny, at first i liked you... thought you were a guy on the other side of the fence, so to speak, a guy who is educated and believes something that i don't... and you know i respect someone who is willing to have beliefs and to defend them! i thought you were intelligent
boy was i wrong... not because of the purple monkey thing or because you believe in a superior being... no because intelligence does not debate by belittling and making fun! that's a huge sign of stupidity... you realise that you arguments are so shallow and full of holes, so you proceed to mock the people who find those flaws in an attempt to discredit them! its not working...
i am more than happy to debate respectfully, with intelligent people... but you are acting like a cornered pre school bully... "well lore is a stupid head"! so you and your press on mustache can walk away wiuth your collective heads bowed... when you come up with some intelligent come backs, please feel free to share, but at this point, you have not contributed much to this conversation except your wonderful red corvette tripe!
again, i must say both atheism and theism do require huge leaps of faith... the truth is, either way, we are assuming a few things... in either case, there is not enough proof to really prove either... so at this point, lets live and let live and really just be happy for the ability to debate!
the infamous one
before we even begin, if you have not read my story, you may not understand why this is such a big deal to me... this is a part of my story and it can be found at: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/101870/1.ashx.
and here we go... my "father", an abusive bastard of a jw, recently sent me an email that put me in a tizzy!
it was late friday night, i had just gotten home from a shift at a local bar where i bartend on occasion!
god, i didn't realize how much i missed you guys when i was gone... you are all amazing... really, you're all awesome and there are tears in my eyes right now... seriously, your support means so much to me.... thank you so much.... as corny as this will sound, you guys are my family now, and i couldnt ask for a better one.
oh and i thought the pursuit of happyness was stupid... too much focus on the money! money made them both happy? yeah right! it was a decent story, but i think the connection between the father and son should have been more of a focus than the job he achieved... but meh!
the infamous one(thankful for all his internet family)
apparently according to the latest info (presented on a news channel) the earth as we now know it will be drastically different in 20 years time.
ie new coastlines, hotter temperatures.
they are painting a very bleak future unless we make drastic changes now.
a paradise earth.. what else??
the infamous one
was it in a gift, a kiss, or other?.
how did you decide you were crazy about or connected to someone?.
i may not have all the experience in the world... but the one im with now, well she brings a smile to my face everytime i think of her.... all it takes is her smile and im exhuberant for the rest of the day... if i wasnt lucky enough to kiss her goodnight everynight and wake up to see her beautiful face beside mine, well i dont know where id be....
but most of all, she makes me smile...
the infamous one
what question do you want to ask or have you asked that would stump or have stumped an elder?
i'm in the position where my mom wants me to come back and wants me to have my questions answered (even though she has dodged most of mine) so that i will once again see its the truth and want to return.
so i'm going to set a meeting with an elder to see if he would be willing to attempt to answer some of my questions to prove to me beyond a doubt that i'm in the wrong.
you know, i just wouldnt bother... they would come up with the same answer as they always do when stumped; "I don't know, but Jehovah does, and he knows better than all of us." or "in time, Jehovah will work it out"
whats the point?
the infamous one
sorry if i that is the wrong spelling.
i just want to say that i used to be judgemental of athiests, but as a jw backer everyone on here finds nothing but wrong doing with the orginizations.
well i am sure i can find wrong doing with other churches and their teachings as well.
TRY wiggling off the hook because red vette aint living, breathing, self-replicating life form, you are then BURIED by the fact that neither is the earth, moon, sun, and stars or universe living, breathing, self-replicating life forms. Neither is atmosphere, water cycles, photosynthesis, weather systems etc living breathing self-replicating life forms. But I already addressed that in the other threads.
hey condescending theist, YOU SUCK!
and heres why, your red corvette theory is great, so is the banana theory and the peanut butter theory... these are all wonderful ideas, but im sorry to tell you, none of this actually proves anything... so while you call atheists stupid and laugh your arrogant laugh, realize that YOUR god has proven nothing... if he is there, he does nothing... he does not show himself...
so lets put this into your pipe now, condescending theist;
i felt the wind blowing by my ear today... and it went by very quickly and then stopped. at that point, instead of thinking, oh it was the wind, i realized it had to have been a purple flying monkey. though i could not see it, the wind that brushed up against my ear proved that a purple flying monkey exists... what do you mean you don't believe that? it sounds ubsurd? but i proved that its there because i know what colour it is, and i felt the wind.... that proves that there is a purple monkey!!!
see, as ridiculous as it sounds, this is exactly what your argument is... and the problem here is this; not that i don't believe that there is a god... the problem is that i don't believe that you honestly think you are better than me because you believe in something that you cannot prove exists, and neither can anyone else... something that no one can see....
i am not a theist... and if god is there, well, tell the muther to get off his lazy ass and do something about this world we're living in.. and condescending theist, learn to live and let live, im willing to do it! debate is great, until people start talking like you do
the infamous one
before we even begin, if you have not read my story, you may not understand why this is such a big deal to me... this is a part of my story and it can be found at: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/101870/1.ashx.
and here we go... my "father", an abusive bastard of a jw, recently sent me an email that put me in a tizzy!
it was late friday night, i had just gotten home from a shift at a local bar where i bartend on occasion!
Good or bad, I'm sure your father provided for you while growing up. Sometimes, people don't treat others the way they should, either because they don't know how or they think what they are doing is correct.
it has been stated before, but i will reiterate that providing for someone does not make up for the shit he put me through! you obviously did not read my story, which is definitely ok, but you later went on and said, would you rather be an orphan? well, i am an orphan! i was adopted by a monster, who one day talks to me like he did in this email, then the next day takes a swing at me for talking to my sister... the man is completely imbalanced and i am wondering if he is delusional, or if he is schizophrenic... either way, he treats everyone else just fine, but always has cutting words and punches to throw... i see no need to put myself into the kind of danger i was once in... and will not until the man is willing to admit he did wrong and not just remember "the good times" of which there were very few...
at this point, i have forgiven, i have put it behind me, but i have not grown stupid. he was not apologizing, he was taking a shot
the infamous one
bad things do happen for a reason.
here is the reason.. for bad things not to happen only good things would always be happening.. then, "good" would lose relative distinction with less "good".
the less good would start to look bad in comparison.. suddenly, what use to seem only good would be bad by contrast.. is this crazy talk?.
it doesnt matter what you expect or what you hope for... i almost agree with your theory that everything happens for a reason.... and your theory on bad being the new not so good, well, i don't mean to be rude, but its almost redundant... if you expect the worst, well then things are going to be bad, you'lll be constantly depressed...
with the bull shit i have gone through in my short stay on this earth, i have learned that life is about outlook... i smile and expect the best.. i give myself the best... and you know what, i make the best out of the worst situation... call me an optimist, call me a moron, but things are definitely going well for me....
and as for everything that happens having a reason, you're right, but we HAVE TO MAKE the reason... learn from the mistakes, thats the reason
the infamous one
