Posts by theinfamousone

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Isn't God Awesome?

by Perry in

http://wonderofitall.com/

theinfamousone

ok perry, or should i say vinny??? im pretty sure you have two profiles.. but we'll let that one slip.... i can copy and paste too!

perry, as much as i enjoy your post and the defending you are doing of your faith... you must realize that you are using the exact same logic as the atheists, just with a theistic twist... you are not proving the existance of a superior being, you are trying to disprove one of many atheistic beliefs...

what you are doing is simply illustrated... i say there was never a banana in my chair... you say there was... how do you prove that? by saying that i can't prove that there never was a banana in my chair... you have not proven that there was a banana in my chair... you have only proven that neither of us can be entirely sure of what we think!!!

proving that god exists is just like trying to prove to a child that santa claus exists... its the same tactic as any religion uses... "oh yeah santa is there", to which the child may reply "i don't believe you" and then you will tell the child, "but there are presents here.." and the child says, "oh yeah".... same with religion... when a priest says "there is a god" some might say, "i dont believe you"... a response like "but there are trees and bees and bananas and wonderful things, that proves theres a god" we wont all say "oh yeah" that simply is not enough for some of us!

i respect you for your faith, i cannot be that faithful

i hate to bring up the purple flying monkey my friend, but the wind did not prove that he was there, nor could anyone disprove that he wasnt!!!!! if you think rationally about this whole issue, no one can prove that something infinite exists.. our minds cannot comprehend that!

i don't know what i believe originated this earth... and maybe thats why i'm such an advocate of live and let live here... but arguing that since there is a tree there that has the wonderful ability to provide a home for birds, wood to make things out of, sap we can drink or use for many purposes and even leaves that make photosynthesis does not prove atheists wrong or theists right!

we are all sitting on a rickety fence here my friends... neither side can be sure what they believe is the truth... and in all honesty, we all need to realize that the circular logic being pervayed in this rant-line is not going to prove anything...

maybe your need to have a god out there is tied in with your need to feel some self worth... and thats great, some of us need that, some of us don't... thats why our minds are such great things, theres no two that are the same!

thanks for the respectful post perry, i really do respect your logic as well

the infamous one(on a quest to understand why people believe what they do, and so fervently)

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Lets freestyle: Smile - its infectious!

by Crumpet in

jw
friends

i just went out for a walk and here's how it was:.

the wind in my hair reminded me of texas.

turned on a smile which became quite infectious.

theinfamousone

CHL wants to contend,

but the pain he tried to inflict,

takes no time to mend.

his words won't get him picked.

he thinks he is cool,

let me rhyme this one weak;

he just looks like a fool.

but now my words i must tweak,

to make sure theyre right,

no chance versus infamous,

cuz my rhymes are so tight.

so here go,

ill allow you to try.

there's one thing i know,

for a night with me;

crumpet would die!

the infamous one

57

Lets freestyle: Smile - its infectious!

by Crumpet in

jw
friends

i just went out for a walk and here's how it was:.

the wind in my hair reminded me of texas.

turned on a smile which became quite infectious.

theinfamousone

no no my child,

your rhymes were too mild.

i have no fiancee,

but many adorers who will pay,

to see me do what i do to you,

and to laugh at your misfortune too.

crumpet is not mine,

though she is very fine.

she was mine once,

but felt like a dunce.

i guess you're too slick

a fight with you i shouldn't pick.

cuz right now all i have is my hand,

and this stupid rubber band

the infamous one

64

Athiests

by BR25 in

jw
friends

sorry if i that is the wrong spelling.

i just want to say that i used to be judgemental of athiests, but as a jw backer everyone on here finds nothing but wrong doing with the orginizations.

well i am sure i can find wrong doing with other churches and their teachings as well.

theinfamousone

perry, as much as i enjoy your post and the defending you are doing of your faith... you must realize that you are using the exact same logic as the atheists, just with a theistic twist... you are not proving the existance of a superior being, you are trying to disprove one of many atheistic beliefs...

what you are doing is simply illustrated... i say there was never a banana in my chair... you say there was... how do you prove that? by saying that i can't prove that there never was a banana in my chair... you have not proven that there was a banana in my chair... you have only proven that neither of us can be entirely sure of what we think!!!

proving that god exists is just like trying to prove to a child that santa claus exists... its the same tactic as any religion uses... "oh yeah santa is there", to which the child may reply "i don't believe you" and then you will tell the child, "but there are presents here.." and the child says, "oh yeah".... same with religion... when a priest says "there is a god" some might say, "i dont believe you"... a response like "but there are trees and bees and bananas and wonderful things, that proves theres a god" we wont all say "oh yeah" that simply is not enough for some of us!

i respect you for your faith, i cannot be that faithful

i hate to bring up the purple flying monkey my friend, but the wind did not prove that he was there, nor could anyone disprove that he wasnt!!!!! if you think rationally about this whole issue, no one can prove that something infinite exists.. our minds cannot comprehend that!

i don't know what i believe originated this earth... and maybe thats why i'm such an advocate of live and let live here... but arguing that since there is a tree there that has the wonderful ability to provide a home for birds, wood to make things out of, sap we can drink or use for many purposes and even leaves that make photosynthesis does not prove atheists wrong or theists right!

we are all sitting on a rickety fence here my friends... neither side can be sure what they believe is the truth... and in all honesty, we all need to realize that the circular logic being pervayed in this rant-line is not going to prove anything...

maybe your need to have a god out there is tied in with your need to feel some self worth... and thats great, some of us need that, some of us don't... thats why our minds are such great things, theres no two that are the same!

thanks for the respectful post perry, i really do respect your logic as well

the infamous one(on a quest to understand why people believe what they do, and so fervently)

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Lets freestyle: Smile - its infectious!

by Crumpet in

jw
friends

i just went out for a walk and here's how it was:.

the wind in my hair reminded me of texas.

turned on a smile which became quite infectious.

theinfamousone

richie has no reply,

his girl was mine,

he can't deny!

with that he must be fine.

what about van leyen?

in desperate need of a girl,

for crumpet he is prayin'

his logic i cannot unfurl.

for the girl he does pursue,

has already been claimed by two!

the infamous one

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If women were on the Governing Body......

by mtsgrad in

jw
friends

there would be far more judical committee as women are more observant.. .

complete the following:.

if women were on the governing body.......... mtsgrad.

theinfamousone

damn you ninja, you beat me to it....

there would be far more accidents while on service since women can't drive (oh god im gonna get a backlash here, it was a joke ladies)

instead of 45 minute public talks, they would be six hours

sports would be banned

there would be a j-dub soap opera

the infamous one

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Lets freestyle: Smile - its infectious!

by Crumpet in

jw
friends

i just went out for a walk and here's how it was:.

the wind in my hair reminded me of texas.

turned on a smile which became quite infectious.

theinfamousone

i got no skills,

my words more like spills

but i smile anyways,

cuz my weekend consists of three days!

so jeer if you must,

its all in good fun i trust.

cuz as i look at richies girl,

im pretty sure i gave her a whirl...

the infamous one (JK GUYS)

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Help

by sexyk in

jw
friends

not sure where to begin with this paragraph, im just a little dazed & confused.

i was in the jw religion for 20 years of my life, baptized, almost ms, i recently left, i am 20 right now.

living with my girlfriend.

theinfamousone

hello my friend... i know exactly where you are coming from... well maybe not exactly since i see no need to speak to either of my parents, though i do love them both dearly, especially my mother, i dont need to talk to them because my father beat the hell out of me for a long time and my mother allowed it! the place where you and i come into common, is with my sister... on the nights i thought of suicide, she was the reason i wouldnt do it... she was my angel... and after i moved out, there was no talking between she and i for well, A LONG TIME... i too spent nights crying, feeling lonely and lost!!! it was terrible...

your story sounds much like mine... i now live with an amazing gf, and am happy! thats the best thing.. i think what you should do here, is call your brother.. i understand they have tried to cut ties, but remember they love you as much as you love them... it hurts them to be without you as well... i know my mother felt betrayed when i left and was slightly angry, but when she saw i was still making the effort totalk to her, she conceded!!! things work out, i talk to my mother and sister allthe time....

just show her you have made an effort, you are not the devil... eventually they will understand and change... also remember one thing... you made this decision for you, not to hurt them!!!

and if you are in ontario, or really anywhere in ontario, or canada and need someone to talk to... someone who understands where you come from feel free to message me... my long distance is free, so i would be more than happy to give you a call if you would like...

i found this board extremely helpful and will tell you that the people here have mostly gone through what you have, or through similar things and will be here for you like they were for me....

thinking of you during your rough times,

the infamous one

PS. IF YOU TAKE ANYTHING FROM THIS POST, TAKE THE NEXT WORDS VERY SERIOUSLY... WHAT GOT ME THROUGH THE HARD TIMES WAS THE FACT THAT THESE PEOPLE SHUNNED ME... WHY? BECAUSE I DID NOT BELIEVE WHAT THEY BELIEVED. I DID NOTHING TO HURT THEM, I JUST DID SOMETHING TO MAKE MYSELF FEEL BETTER, AND THEY LEFT ME... WHAT KIND OF FRIEND IS THAT? INSTEAD OF REJOICING FOR MY NEW FOUND HAPPINESS, THEY TRIED TO MAKE ME REGRET IT! THAT IS WORSE THAN A FAIR WEATHERED FRIEND, ITS AN ENEMY! I'M NOT SAYING THIS ABOUT YOUR FAMILY, BUT MORE ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN THE ORG!

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Athiests

by BR25 in

jw
friends

sorry if i that is the wrong spelling.

i just want to say that i used to be judgemental of athiests, but as a jw backer everyone on here finds nothing but wrong doing with the orginizations.

well i am sure i can find wrong doing with other churches and their teachings as well.

theinfamousone

The thing I find annoying about athiests (the ones that I have met) is that they always want to argue with you. It gives me the creeps because they use the same kind of tricks as the Watchtower, referring to themselves as "people of reason" and seem to look down on people who don't share their views. I think it is a case of hating something so much that you become it. Athiests hate religion so much that it becomes thier religion. It almost seems like they doubt their lack of faith, worrying that maybe there is a god and your belief is a threat to their non-belief. I don't mean this to be an attack on all athiests, just the ones that I have met. Maybe I have just met athiests with very strong views and man, can they be pushy.

i hate to say this, but by your logic, i can say i find all theists annoying too... the ones i have met, the dubs in particular, are extremely pushy... then theres the mormons, the seventh days, the evangelists and bla bla bla..... they all come up to you and push you... i remember one offering me a bible, me accepting, out of reason, i like to know what people believe, and he tried to force me to sign some paperwork... and even worse he would not allow me to read it, it just says you give your life to jesus! upon refusing he called me a heathen and strolled off...

but you need to take these things with a grain of salt... these people come with their own experiences and mental issues, and do not represent the majority of religious people, they are just a fringe group of nuts... it would be unfair for me to say i think theists are annoying due to that!

what i will say is that i hate theists like vinny who believe that they are better than everyone... they use the exact same logic as the witnesses to "prove" something that cannot be proven!!! it doesn't make sense... again, this whole debate, as interesting as it is, ALWAYS, without a flaw, becomes a screaming match... because the nuts always prevail... "i need to be heard, because i am always right and you are all wrong" its ridiculous...

neither side can win this debate... we are either both wrong, both right or only one is right.. the problem here is that there is NO PROOF either way! so at this point unless you are debating to understand the other persons viewpoint so that you can be better informed about our collective consciousness, there is no point in being here!!!!

so lets debate respectfully, instead of all turning into vinny who is one of the most condescending idiots that has ever wasted my time! i love to learn what theists believe, and am not willing to belittle them because the truth is, they could be right... they can teach me alot about the world and can teach me alot about why people act the way they do!!!!

the infamous one (true hater of bickering!)

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For Those Raised in "Da Troof" Would Your Life Had Been Better If...

by XJW4EVR in

jw
friends

you had been raised by the same family, but in a different religion, or non-religious home?

i am not addressing birthdays or holidays.

i am thinking about everyday life.. the reason i ask, is that so much of our parents problems may have been caused, or enhanced by "da troof.

theinfamousone

i believe my life would have been much easier for me if i had been raised in a non-JW home... i probably would not have suffered the beatings and mind-F*s that i went through... but easier means that i would not be the strong mo fo i am now... so life wouldn't be better, just easier.... but i love who i am so its ok!

the infamous one