i'd be hard pressed to think of anyone in that organization that is not suffering from some sort of delusion... let's be completely honest, their entire faith is based on lies (illusions, if you will), which leaves their people lost in a sea of illusion.... so yes, they must be delusional (plays on words are fun!)
the infamous one
when pointing out my objections to the jw religion with my wife, i have noticed a worrying trend which even after 3 or 4 years shows no sign of relenting.. after speaking calmly for an hour or so and logically pointing out my objections, my wife starts to put forward outrageous assertations about my points.
for instance, if i am refering to the fact that disfellowshipping is a form of extreem punishment & i mention the terrible effects that being d/f'd can have on people, she will eventually retort with something like "so what you are saying is that we should tolerate paedophiles, rapists & thieves in the organisation then?".
of course, i've never at any point said anything of the sort.. or if i have been overly critical of the amount of control the society wants over peoples lives, she would reply "so what you are saying is that we should all just go out & do what we want, get drunk & live an immoral life?
i find that whenever you attempt to discuss anything with a religious person, whether it is calmly or not, they will take it to extremes.... if you make a good point, they will usually call you names, or tell you you are doomed... they rarely are capable, or have the mental capacity (no offence to your wife) to come up with a proper response to a well thought out query... it is sad
-the infamous one
i dad 6 years ago because, after a rational search came to the conclusion that there probably is no god.
shortly afterwards, i concluded that (for me) there is no god, which made me feel that i really was a natural-born humanist - a position that i'm entirely comfortable with.
i know that many former jws hold a similar, atheistic viewpoint.
after some long and hard soul searching, and confusion due to the upbringing i received as a dub, i have finally come to the realization that there is no god. for, if there was, how could he/she/it allow all the pain and suffering prevalent in our world?
i finally allowed myself to let go of my ego and realize that this probably is it... if this is it, then let's enjoy the little time we have... let's enjoy each other... let's move on from our search for an invisible director, and finally allow ourselves to really be free...
-the infamous one
it has been quite some time since i have posted on this glorious discussion group... it has been even longer since i have started any discussions myself.. and as somber (or possibly upsetting), my title or even thesis may seem, there is reason and respect coming behind it.... i do love the majority of the people who post here... though your faces and names may have changed since i started here, your kind words, sincere support and listening ears have always been very much appreciated... you have helped me through the hardest times of my life... my feelings of inadequacy (spl?
) and loneliness have often been overshadowed by your caring and love... so i must start by thanking you..... now, that being said; sometimes when i come online and read the dribble that some of you protray as discussion, i am almost sickened... right now my stomach is in knots because of the recent description of one's fecal matter i was subject to read... and yes, i know i could have just clicked off of it, but the title seemed appealing, the subject matter on the other hand was not.... but even this is not enough to turn me off of this site.... the other thing that leaves me with a bitter taste in my mouth, is the bull **** that i once believed... the terrible attitude and delusion of grandeur i once shared with the people of this terrible organization.... the pain i must have helped to instill in people who truly did not deserve it... the hatred i felt inside when someone decided to disassociate themselves, or the anger i felt towards the people that were disfellowshipped.
the letters i wrote to my friends, who had left... the families that were falling apart around me, as my own was able to hold some semblance of happiness and stability (whether feigned or not)... all the pain and torture this borg has put me through...has put so many others through... this has left me reeling.... reading about it every day no longer instills anger in me, as it used to... now, it sickens me... sickens me to believe i once felt this way, sickens me that so many others still condemn others for thinking... sickens me to realize that there are other 15 year olds out there being beaten for smiling... sickens me to think that there is not much i can do to help them... except maybe hope that one day they will find this website, or find some friend, or find me, and we can all work together to help this person out..... yes, i needed to rant... the true nature of this message though is to say thank you to all of you for making me realize how sick the witnesses are... how morally blind they are... and how much pain they instill... thank you for helping me out when i needed the help most... thanks for being my family... and i just hope i can help you all and anyone else that needs it as much as you helped me... i hope one day we all feel sickened at the damage the witnesses caused and continue to cause.
i'm am eternally sorry for coming back to an old topic, one that i held very near to my heart. due to my feelings i do not come back to this site overly often, maybe due to my own memories, that were caused by the dispicable wtbts.
so this is to you solace, who truly must believe in nature over nurture,. i think the way i was raised by the moronic and damaging jehovah's wtinesses is the reason i have such a problem with the bull that i see on this site so often. no it is not all MY PROBLEM, much of it is a product of my upbringing. i am moving forward past it, but am so sickened by idiots like you who take the pain that someone is feeling and make them feel badly for feeling such pain. this is a tactic that was used against us all while we were being brain washed by the wtbts! so F* off... i don't need more of people like you, i doubt you even read my post
to the rest of you, thanks... for seriously reading what i wrote... for taking the time to try and understand it..... and for well, discussing it... this is what i love about this site and you people
sparky! no no cornrows, not enough hair, just designs in it for fun, its cool
--the infamous one
my former bible study conductor has heart problems and very high blood pressure, but doesn't seem concerned about it.
another witness i knew had heart problems but never went to doctors, & eventually dropped dead suddenly.
given that cigarette smoking is a disfellowshipping offense, why aren't jws reprimanded when they otherwise neglect & jeopardize their health?
most witnesses dont neglect their health.
oh poor solace.... yes they do, i am diabetic and have been told by more than a few witnesses to forget about taking insulin, drink more water and soon enough jebubba would fix it all for me... no worries right? wrong if i was even close to as stupid as them i would have dropped dead so long ago... i have seen people die because they left their health in jebubbas hands.... gimme a break!!! the infamous one
i have known many previous incarnations.
i walked the earth as nostradamus, uther pendragon, count cagliostro and rodrigo borgia, although not in that order.
i speak seventeen languages, i have played darts with the dalai lama and shared my sleeping bag with rasputin, albert einstein, lawrence of arabia and george formby.
oh but you see, i would have expected a pseudo intellectual, like yourself, to have understood the humour behind my message... maybe read between the lines and see my terrible joke for what it was worth.......... and i refuse to chill out, i would much prefer to keep warm today
the infamous one
it has been quite some time since i have posted on this glorious discussion group... it has been even longer since i have started any discussions myself.. and as somber (or possibly upsetting), my title or even thesis may seem, there is reason and respect coming behind it.... i do love the majority of the people who post here... though your faces and names may have changed since i started here, your kind words, sincere support and listening ears have always been very much appreciated... you have helped me through the hardest times of my life... my feelings of inadequacy (spl?
) and loneliness have often been overshadowed by your caring and love... so i must start by thanking you..... now, that being said; sometimes when i come online and read the dribble that some of you protray as discussion, i am almost sickened... right now my stomach is in knots because of the recent description of one's fecal matter i was subject to read... and yes, i know i could have just clicked off of it, but the title seemed appealing, the subject matter on the other hand was not.... but even this is not enough to turn me off of this site.... the other thing that leaves me with a bitter taste in my mouth, is the bull **** that i once believed... the terrible attitude and delusion of grandeur i once shared with the people of this terrible organization.... the pain i must have helped to instill in people who truly did not deserve it... the hatred i felt inside when someone decided to disassociate themselves, or the anger i felt towards the people that were disfellowshipped.
the letters i wrote to my friends, who had left... the families that were falling apart around me, as my own was able to hold some semblance of happiness and stability (whether feigned or not)... all the pain and torture this borg has put me through...has put so many others through... this has left me reeling.... reading about it every day no longer instills anger in me, as it used to... now, it sickens me... sickens me to believe i once felt this way, sickens me that so many others still condemn others for thinking... sickens me to realize that there are other 15 year olds out there being beaten for smiling... sickens me to think that there is not much i can do to help them... except maybe hope that one day they will find this website, or find some friend, or find me, and we can all work together to help this person out..... yes, i needed to rant... the true nature of this message though is to say thank you to all of you for making me realize how sick the witnesses are... how morally blind they are... and how much pain they instill... thank you for helping me out when i needed the help most... thanks for being my family... and i just hope i can help you all and anyone else that needs it as much as you helped me... i hope one day we all feel sickened at the damage the witnesses caused and continue to cause.
it has been quite some time since i have posted on this glorious discussion group... it has been even longer since i have started any discussions myself.. and as somber (or possibly upsetting), my title or even thesis may seem, there is reason and respect coming behind it.... i do love the majority of the people who post here... though your faces and names may have changed since i started here, your kind words, sincere support and listening ears have always been very much appreciated... you have helped me through the hardest times of my life... my feelings of inadequacy (spl?) and loneliness have often been overshadowed by your caring and love... so i must start by thanking you....
now, that being said; sometimes when i come online and read the dribble that some of you protray as discussion, i am almost sickened... right now my stomach is in knots because of the recent description of one's fecal matter i was subject to read... and yes, i know i could have just clicked off of it, but the title seemed appealing, the subject matter on the other hand was not.... but even this is not enough to turn me off of this site...
the other thing that leaves me with a bitter taste in my mouth, is the bull **** that i once believed... the terrible attitude and delusion of grandeur i once shared with the people of this terrible organization.... the pain i must have helped to instill in people who truly did not deserve it... the hatred i felt inside when someone decided to disassociate themselves, or the anger i felt towards the people that were disfellowshipped. the letters i wrote to my friends, who had left... the families that were falling apart around me, as my own was able to hold some semblance of happiness and stability (whether feigned or not)... all the pain and torture this borg has put me through...has put so many others through... this has left me reeling...
reading about it every day no longer instills anger in me, as it used to... now, it sickens me... sickens me to believe i once felt this way, sickens me that so many others still condemn others for thinking... sickens me to realize that there are other 15 year olds out there being beaten for smiling... sickens me to think that there is not much i can do to help them... except maybe hope that one day they will find this website, or find some friend, or find me, and we can all work together to help this person out....
yes, i needed to rant... the true nature of this message though is to say thank you to all of you for making me realize how sick the witnesses are... how morally blind they are... and how much pain they instill... thank you for helping me out when i needed the help most... thanks for being my family... and i just hope i can help you all and anyone else that needs it as much as you helped me... i hope one day we all feel sickened at the damage the witnesses caused and continue to cause
the infamous one
i have known many previous incarnations.
i walked the earth as nostradamus, uther pendragon, count cagliostro and rodrigo borgia, although not in that order.
i speak seventeen languages, i have played darts with the dalai lama and shared my sleeping bag with rasputin, albert einstein, lawrence of arabia and george formby.
lol, sometimes a cry for attention works... other times, well, i just think you look foolish!!!
but way to make light of people's actual achievements....
the infamous one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1tesk0hcao&feature=related
i think this is a show made by americans, quite possibly government funded, or maybe funded by the private sector... yes our system is flawed but at least we ALL have access to healthcare... homeless, poor, hungry, access is there....
in the states the same cannot be said...
the infamous one
you know it is something when the 'animals' start to recognize a need for 'life on a paradise earth'.. .
one wise monkey.
i think i recognize this brother from my old congregation!.
hey that looks like an elder from the hall i used to be in....
the infamous one
