Dear Penny2
I know I sounded harsh with my comments yesterday. Sorry if I caused any offence. I was in a funny mood and read your remarks in a certain way. Not a good combination.
Cheers
INQ
i was happily day-dreaming the other day.
and somehow i thought of the witnesses i've personally known who've gone to china to spread watchtower propaganda.
and then this absolutely malevolent thought struck me.
Dear Penny2
I know I sounded harsh with my comments yesterday. Sorry if I caused any offence. I was in a funny mood and read your remarks in a certain way. Not a good combination.
Cheers
INQ
ok well per my post yesterday most of you know i was suddenly disfellowshipped after my letter of baptism nullification.
i called the presiding overseer to ask why.
i specifically listed in my letter that i was not to be disfellowshipped nor was i disassociating myself.
Quick question: is it meant to be "legal counCIL" or "legal counSEL"?
Don't wanna make a fuss. Just seeking some clarification.
INQ
i've heard from 2 independent and impeccable sources "close to the gb" (i should have been a journalist!
) that the 2007 conventions are all to be held within a one month period.
as stadiums are often booked up to five years in advance , this has caused consternation among district overseers and at least one stadium has charged the jws several thousands of pounds in a penalty clause to cancel and reschedule the booking.
Haha, Jeeprube.
......
God I hope you're wrong.... <shudder>
INQ
i've heard from 2 independent and impeccable sources "close to the gb" (i should have been a journalist!
) that the 2007 conventions are all to be held within a one month period.
as stadiums are often booked up to five years in advance , this has caused consternation among district overseers and at least one stadium has charged the jws several thousands of pounds in a penalty clause to cancel and reschedule the booking.
Hi Dozy
Are you sure these sources of yours haven't planted a false rumor on you to confirm that you're on this website?
Just a stray thought.
INQ
having been out of the org for a while now i have come to realise that when you think about certain viewpoints/activities of jw`s, it can really make you annoyed/upset/angry/laugh etc etc.
one thing that is pissing me off right now and has done for a while, is their attitude towards 'the worlds selfish pursuits'.
how often did you hear that those who seek an education to get a good job are 'seeking glory for themselves' and are doing the wrong thing.
They've also implied that youths who go for further studies end up thinking too much of themselves (Translation: asks too many questions), think too highly of worldly wisdom (Translation: are no longer satisfied with the simple and illogical doctrines by "Mother"), not trusting completely in Jehovah ( Translation: not a full-time slave of the Org).
I completely agree with you, jambon1. Should you ever feel like bashing up a few college-slamming elders, give me a buzz, kay?
I've just bought myself a new cricket bat. Mwahahahaha
INQ
i was happily day-dreaming the other day.
and somehow i thought of the witnesses i've personally known who've gone to china to spread watchtower propaganda.
and then this absolutely malevolent thought struck me.
Ok I get the picture. Missionaries suffer-Bad. Our JW families and friends turn more paranoid-Bad.
WT expansion efforts in China spoiled- Good, but not good enough.
What about the Chinese people? Or the population of any other state that has banned JWs?
What about them? No one has addressed this part of my question yet I don't think.
INQ
i was happily day-dreaming the other day.
and somehow i thought of the witnesses i've personally known who've gone to china to spread watchtower propaganda.
and then this absolutely malevolent thought struck me.
osmosis,
I don't see why you must stumble at the term. If you happened upon a terrorist's plans, what do you do? Tell on them right?
What do you call that if not "snitching"?
Can we work with concepts here and not pick at words? For the love of God...
INQ
i was happily day-dreaming the other day.
and somehow i thought of the witnesses i've personally known who've gone to china to spread watchtower propaganda.
and then this absolutely malevolent thought struck me.
just2sheep and all
Thank you for sharing your views with me. I can see why you would choose not to tell on the missionaries if you were in my shoes. And I appreciate you guys for tryingto set me straight. I assure you I'm not a heartless b**tard. I'm just a little frustrated that the WTS gets to have a field day, sending out willing pawns to toy with people's lives and minds. What I've suggested shows a complete disregard for the lives of those missionaries (if indeed the Chinese governement dares execute foreign nationals on such grounds). But can you not see it is a means to an end?
Honestly, do you think anything we do now, whether it is writing up a blog or sending phoney checks or videocamming JWs will reach people in lands where JW activity is banned? Don't get me wrong, these are brilliant counter-strategies where we live, but in countries where JWs are unheard of?
Aren't we perpetually "picking up the pieces" where these people are concerned? We don't do anything till the JWs have had a go at them?? Does that not frustrate you all?
INQ
i was happily day-dreaming the other day.
and somehow i thought of the witnesses i've personally known who've gone to china to spread watchtower propaganda.
and then this absolutely malevolent thought struck me.
Penny2,
Is there such a thing as an Australian thought or an un-Australian one?? I have never adopted the view that one could assign geographical borders to a pattern of thoughts.
"Un-Australian" is such a horrid, meaningless, yet potently suggestive word. It's a term that rolls off the oiled tongues of our politicians, with little thought but with very pregnant intent of inciting an all-censoring nationalistic pride. I trust that isn't your intent here on JWD.
What is un-Australian? Chow Mein and beef vindaloo? Baseball? The push for an Australian Republic? A die-hard devotion to the Simpsons? Letting genuine refugees into this country? Releasing refugee children from detention camps into the general population? If I hold a fancy for such things/philosophies in life would I not be Aussie enough for your tastes? If so, to be Australian also means to be undemocratic does it not, Penny2?
But, enough of that, why don't we play along with your terminology for a moment. For the sake of argument, let's suppose my thoughts are un-Australian: please explain how you resolve that with the concept of "a battler" - a most Australian notion.
Is the overwhelming desire to be "a battler" against the oppressive system that is the Watchtower Society, un-Australian?
If not, then how are my thoughts un-Australian?
INQ
i was happily day-dreaming the other day.
and somehow i thought of the witnesses i've personally known who've gone to china to spread watchtower propaganda.
and then this absolutely malevolent thought struck me.
Also, whoever is going to reply to this thread next, would you refrain from talking about how I'm punishing the "6 million JWs" or the entire "rank and file".
PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.
I'm talking about snitching on the handful of missionaries in a particular country where they are banned. I don't recall a mass exodus of JWs into China. I know I haven't been attending meetings lately, but surely they haven't left me behind.
INQ