What is the most important God himself,or a book.
I have come to the conclusion thay many people make an idol out of a book and God has no say in the matter.People are worshipimg a representation of God instead of Yahweh himself.
I am quite sure that many things in the bible are not literal,you have to do mental gymnastics to support everything as literal and harmonize with science,I am not saying I dont believe in God or Christ because I do,but in the creation account for example if it was written in the way it really happened it would have been hard for man to understand so it was written in a simple way to explain the concept that God did it.And the flood account,if all the animals on earth came of the Ark in Turkey and spread out over the earth,how come for example almost all marsupials ended up in Australia and no where else on earth barring one marsupial breed breed in South America,did all the marsupials get together after getting off the ark and decide to head south east as a convoy?
The formation of the bible as we know it was a point of much contreversey,and the decision of which writings to include or exclude as inspired out of many was taken in a very contreversial way by a load of Catholic priests and hundreds of years later the protestants discarded a few more books to arrive at the current cannon.
The Bible seems to have also been affected by popular Greek hellenistic infusion with more talk of hellfire in the later books of the bible.
Yes I believe IN GOd and the basic message of the bible,but I do not think that the Bible is totally infallable and always literal even though I would like to think so.
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Does anyone here believe the Bible?
by sawthelight inive noticed many posts relating to evolution and i'm just wondering does anyone frequenting this board believe in the bible?
it seems that just because most have bad experiences with the wt that everyone here is an atheist.
i myself was something at least of an agnostic for quite some time after breaking free of the borg, but now i see things in a different light.
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My JW Mothers' Words Of "Love"
by Ranchette inwell, i just received a letter from my mom and i dont know how to describe my feelings at this time.
i thought id share parts of it with you and see what yall think.
i will delete names and add my own words in parenthesis to describe whom shes talking about.. after a few lines of small talk she says this..........i do want to tell you, since (you and your husband) have rejected the truth, i am so glad (your son) is not old enough to join or be drafted into the military.
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Is'nt it a shame that she has used a trajic event to score points and feed fear tactics.
And is'nt it the witnesses who criticise those who leave for supposed negativity,it seems like the figuritive whip of fear is the prefered tactic to the idea of a paradisic reward.
Yes,sadly many have lost their lives in defending freedom,but what would have happened if those people did not make this sacrifice,how would the JWs have fared without others prepared to support freedom for speech religion and liberty,that which the religion demands for the watchtower corporation then denies its own members. -
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10/1 WT: Creative days = 7,000 years
by Seeker inthe fourth paragraph on page 30 in the october 1, 2001 wt says this:.
"getting back to paul's statement in hebrews, we note that he pointed out that "there remains a sabbath resting for the peoples of god," and he urged his fellow christians to do their utmost "to enter into that rest.
" this shows that when paul wrote those words, "the seventh day" of god's rest, which had started some 4,000 years earlier, was still in progress.
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Yes,the Witnesses have claimed that the earth that we stand on could be billions of years old but as for the creation of plants animals etc have clearly implied that this would have been no more than 49000 years ago including dinasours etc,that is why they have tried to discredit scientific dating methods because of the hole they are dug in which flies in the face of overwhelming geological evidence.
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Question for a JW
by Naeblis innot sure if there are any active jw's here.
i think i've seen a few floating around.
(i'm not talking about obvious lunatics like you know but an average jw) here's my question.. were all the bible writers prophets?
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The GB like to have all the authority of an inspired prophet with none of the responsibility,ie all prophecies must come true 100 per cent.
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inactive for 5 months...confused!
by babyboo ina little about me: i'm a 17 yr old femme-i'll be 18 the 30th of this month.
and yes, i'm going to celebrate it.
i haven't celebrated it since i was 6. i have 2 older sisters, an older brother, and a younger brother.
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Babyboo
Hi
Are you the same Babyboo who I have met in the Awoke! former JW's room on Paltalk chat, If so Hi nice to meet you here as well,either way thanks for sharing your heart,I think where you have a religion with double standards and doubletalk which uses two different sorts of weights,then the rank and file follow the lead and hence the double standard hypocrisy you witnessed among the witnesses and we all have witnessed. -
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Well, I'm stuck in my office in Manhattan for now
by Michael3000 inhi, folks.
i know nytelecom works nearby (across the river?
), but i can tell you all that today has been (and will continue to be for a loooong time) the single most bizarre, surreal event i have witnessed.. i work in an office building at 26 broadway in manhattan, about 10 blocks from the world trade towers.
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It's a shock for me to see it on the Tv news it must be a completely emotionaly overwhelming event to have been so nearbye.
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URGENT , Got meeting tonight(Beards)
by StifflersErSlayersBrother inanyone got any good information as to why dubs dont like beards?
in 18 years, i have yet to understand why.
if its brought up tonight by anyone, what should i say?
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Tatiana
But it is unlikely you would have been offered an eldership privaledge etc,with a beard in most congregations.
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URGENT , Got meeting tonight(Beards)
by StifflersErSlayersBrother inanyone got any good information as to why dubs dont like beards?
in 18 years, i have yet to understand why.
if its brought up tonight by anyone, what should i say?
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Stiffler
I remember a talk about 15 years ago given by a member of the Governing body and relayed in a live link to several assemblies in which he said it was inapropriate for a witness holding privaledges to have a beard,the reason given was that beards were associated with rebelious elements in modern society and witnesses did not want to look like rebels,I thought it strange reasoning at the time since I could think of many highly respected individuals in the world who were not at all rebelious and sported beards,it was also a window that started me to have real doubts as the very next day witnesses who had had beards for many years came in clean shaven and behaving like true loyal robots. -
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Australian Nazi regime?
by Norm inwhat kind of complete bastard regime do they have in australia?.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_1511000/1511903.stm.
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The UK is already an overcrowded little island with about 58 million of us packed in and big pressure on precious building land resources etc,and strugling to cope with a vast number of assylum seekers who need help.
Australia on the other hand with a thumping great continent with a relitevely small population and vast resorces is above all equiped to help. -
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Validity of 607 BCE date
by stevieb1 inhas anyone on here ever come across the tiniest shred of evidence supporting this date for the fall of jerusalem.
i understand rolf furuli is about to but something out on this subject (see elihubooks.com), however even a table of contents has been a long time in coming from this site.
if no evidence exists what can he possibly be writing about?
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Scholar
Can you give just one example of this so called evidence?