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why celebrate christmass?

by Cordelia in

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ok so its nearly christmass and i'm thinking of celebrating it for the first time, but i feel alittle wrong in doing so, i know all the witness reasoning of why its wrong and just wondered what your reasons are as to why its right!.

i have a 3 year old little girl and would love to make it nice for her (tho my family would go mad!

) im thinking of getting a baby tree (one that can easily be hidden!

marsh

Lets put Christ back into it,lets keep the Story of Jesus Birth alive. Immanuel.

I have been to many midnight masses in my time raised a RC.Church was not an option we Had to go,no exscuses.I am from a large family yet for all of us Church was important.At Christmas it was all about Jesus birth,then pressies.

I heard a story the other day about a charity shop .In the window was a Nativity scene but there was no baby in the manger...........The reason? Let's put Christ back into Christmas.

You may find the Catholic site interesting. New Advent. I'll try to put a link.

www.newadvent.org/cathen/13724b.htm (I Hope)

I have friend and he says how about the pagans copied the believers?

Mathew 1:23,"Behold,the virgin shall be with child,and bear a Son and they shall call His name Immanuel"which is translated "God with us".

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Something I want to tell you apostates

by AuldSoul in

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i love you all!

and that includes the ones who don't even know they're apostates.. auldsoul

marsh

Anyone like rock type Christian music?

I have been sent a BREAKSPEAR CD it's really good,one song Rattling cages is about giving up cigarettes......

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Something I want to tell you apostates

by AuldSoul in

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i love you all!

and that includes the ones who don't even know they're apostates.. auldsoul

marsh

Oh well,I did try..........

You raise me up' by Josh Groban

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Something I want to tell you apostates

by AuldSoul in

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i love you all!

and that includes the ones who don't even know they're apostates.. auldsoul

marsh

I have not left God...............have left a man-made organisation.Jeremiah 17.

here's alovely song for you.

http://www.joshgroban.com/main_music_frame.html

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Ripping Apart The Faithful & Discreet Slave Doctrine Slashes A Foundation

by minimus in

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in order to get to the core of the wts belief system, one must get to the foundation of all of its teachings.

that basis is the belief that the fds gives, from jehovah god, all the "spiritual food at the proper time".

if the "slave" gets all it's light" from jehovah god and jesus christ, the head of the congregation, why are their continued "refinements"?

marsh

I have alittle booklet by Harold J.Berry Seventh Day Adventists ........what they believe

I'll try to put a link on (hopeless) it's www.believersweb.org/view.cfm?ID=544

Page 10-11 talks about Investigative Judgment.

The FDS .A faithful slave of God does not make false prophecies,change doctrines.or control the thinking of it's people.

Mathew 16:16-17.Simon Peter answered and said."You are The Christ the Son of the Living God"

Jesus answered and said to him,"Blessed are you,Simon Bar Jonah.for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you,but my Father who is in heaven.

John 15:26."But when the helper comes ,whom I shall send to you from the Father,the Spirit of Truth who proceeds from the Father.He will testify of me"

Galatians 1:15-18.Pauls call to Apostleship

1 John 2:26-27 These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you.27.But the annointing which you have received from Him abides in you,and you do not need that anyone teach you;but as the same annointing teaches you concerning all things ,and is true,and is not alie ,and just as it has taught you,you will abide in Him.

1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding,that we may know Him who is true,in His Son Jesus Christ.This is the True God and eternal life .

Christians are persecuted on account of Jesus name.We preach Christ Crucified,The Gospel is Good News of our redemption by the blood of Christ by faith.

The WT are neither faithful or discreet,and all the works in the world=nothing.It is by Grace we are saved.

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Heavenly hope????? What do you believe?

by findingmyway in

i am currently reading coc (just starting chapter 11 - point of decision).

i was also just reading on shaun's site the time magazine article (http://www.jwfiles.com/franz-article.htm) on ray franz's shunning.

i didn't realize that he and many other dissenters believe that all who belive in christ will go to heaven.

marsh

Hi,

I believe what the Bible teaches us.Romans 8 :12,Therefore ,brethren,we are debtors-not to the flesh,to live according to the flesh.13,For if you live according to the flesh you will die;but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body you will live.14 .For as many as are led by the Spirit of God,these are sons of God 15.For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear,but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out,Abba Father,16.The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God.17.and if children,then heirs-heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ,if indeed we suffer with Him,that we may also be glorified together.

28.And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God,to those who are the called according to His purpose.

37.yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us.

38.For I am persuaded that neither death nor life,nor angels nor principalities nor powers,nor things present nor things to come.39.nor height nor depth,nor any other created thing,shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ our Lord.

Ephesians 1-3 The Christians heavenly 'bank account'every spiritual blessing.

1:3 Blessed be the God and father of our Lord Jesus Christ,who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ,

7.In Him we have redemption through His blood,the forgiveness of sins,according to the riches of His Grace.

10.That in the dispensation of the fullness of the times,He might gather together in one all things in Christ,both which are in Heaven and which are on earth-IN HIM.

2:8 For by GRACE you have been saved through faith,and that not of yourselves it is the gift of God.9 Not of works lest anyone should boast

I believe in the New Heavens and New earth just like Peter taught.

God cannot lie,

Peter wrote 9.But you are a chosen people, aroyal priesthood,a holy nation,a apeople belonging to God,that you may declare the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His wonderful light.10.Once you were not a people,but now you are the people of God;once you had not received mercy,but now you have received mercy.

We do not have to wait to get to heaven to enjoy that promised privalege.We are now a royal priesthood,as the redeemed people of God.

Revelation 5&6 Zechariah 6.

Christ conquers the hearts of His people by His Gospel so that we become a royal priesthood and share His triumph.He conquers satan and all those who reject the Gospel by His judgments.He conquers death,first His own ressurection,and then the ressurection of all,for life or condemnation.He conquers all the troubles of this sinful world by establishing a New Heaven and New earth,the home of righgteousness.

Death is nothing to fear Christ has conquered IN CHRIST WE ARE SAFE .for all eternity.

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Is Anyone Else Sad Today?

by Ms. Whip in

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today is thanksgiving.

time for family & friends.

sady, thanks to the watchtower org., i have few of either.

marsh

I am feeling for all of you ((((((((hugs))))))))) makes me realise how fortunate I am in having family,they all left the JWS,and all live 5 mins away from me. I have Christmas now but it took me a while and I still try to keep it simple.

Isaiah 7:14 "Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign:behold the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son,and shall call His name Immanuel'

Mathew 1 :23, "Behold ,the virgin shall be with child,and bear a Son and they shall call His name Immanuel," which is translated ,"God with us".

If there is anything I can do to help anyone please let me know.

Godbless.

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All Elders Aren't Bad

by sammielee24 in

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i've read posts from time to time where it is obvious that people have been treated badly by either a jc or by individual elder themselves while in the society.

i can honestly say that in all my years as an elder, i have never seen this side.

most elders that i have known are committed, honest and fair minded men, who believe in what they are doing and have complete and utter faith in the organization.