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Underground Reformed JW movement

by RealNewLight in

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this is a movement which has been growing slowly but steadily among young people in spanish and portuguese speaking congregations in the united states.

basically it is a movement created by winesses who believe in much of the teachings of the organization, but do not believe in the authority of the wts, or any other body.

they also do not believe in disfellowshiping, and believe that every decision should be a personal conscience matter.

wanda

I read in history books a revolution occurs in the minds of the people long before they actually are able to consumate it.

Watchtower is an organization all right, a BURNT-OUT organization due to its intimidating, bullying, threatening, namecalling tactics.

The longer it exists the more it uses the tactics, constantly running the best people down into its mud until finally some will go from passive resistance to more pronounced resistance such as leaving about anti-Watchtower notes in the kingdom halls (also assembly/convention sites) themselves.

Are the Governing Body and its toadies pleased now? The day will come when they themselves cancel their own conventions out of fear that they will be used as forums for anti-Watchtower expressions.

The old tower is leaning downwards more that ever. For how long? The day is getting shorter by the seconds.

For everyone who has already left a thousand have wished they could so, yes, it is a MOVEMENT, a revolutionary movement for the best. Keep it up, friends!

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JW - Teen Suicide

by Mystery in

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http://www.newsregister.com/news/story.cfm?story_no=201011

y-c hit with second suicide.

published: november 19, 2005. by paul daquilante.

wanda

Maybe some elders are ignoring Brooklyn. Good. (Shhhhh....)

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Do they still DF people???

by toladest in

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i visited my sister recently (she is not a jw and was never baptized but is very close to my mother and brothers) and she was telling me that they are no longer dfing people.

i told her i heard that too, but that they now announce people as no longer being jw which effectively means the same thing.

my ex-sister in law cheated on my brother and began smoking as well.

wanda

It would be nice if some elders are ignoring Brooklyn. (Shhhh...)

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Miniature and large LRAD weapons used by U.S. army, businesses and cults

by wanda in

i mentioned this in another forum then realized it would also fit here, so i edited it a little and here it is again.

a ministerial servants' head told me confidentially he and some friends had harrassed an oklahoma city sister who partook of the emblems by using miniaturized sound and voice making devices.

in some congregations the elder body and their closest pioneer sisters also don't like jws and ex-jws they think are big-mouths because they are afraid they will tell about things like child molesting.

wanda

Avishai, send me a private email sometime.

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Miniature and large LRAD weapons used by U.S. army, businesses and cults

by wanda in

i mentioned this in another forum then realized it would also fit here, so i edited it a little and here it is again.

a ministerial servants' head told me confidentially he and some friends had harrassed an oklahoma city sister who partook of the emblems by using miniaturized sound and voice making devices.

in some congregations the elder body and their closest pioneer sisters also don't like jws and ex-jws they think are big-mouths because they are afraid they will tell about things like child molesting.

wanda

There are people who seem perfectly sane but do insane things such as wiretap and stalk and I can tell you some are elders, long-time pioneer sisters and their helpers in the background.

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Miniature and large LRAD weapons used by U.S. army, businesses and cults

by wanda in

i mentioned this in another forum then realized it would also fit here, so i edited it a little and here it is again.

a ministerial servants' head told me confidentially he and some friends had harrassed an oklahoma city sister who partook of the emblems by using miniaturized sound and voice making devices.

in some congregations the elder body and their closest pioneer sisters also don't like jws and ex-jws they think are big-mouths because they are afraid they will tell about things like child molesting.

wanda

It's interesting how many appear to be acknowledging this problem which means it or the awareness of it must has increased in the past several years since I first mentioned it although even back then other ex-JWs were confirming it.

I will never understand why some of the people who finally discovered that the Watchtower Society is a cult back then absolutely dismissed the idea that some of the most fanatical guys in it resort to active harassment or stalking, not just the more passive spying stuff.

Their predictions of Armageddon failed. Silentlambs exposed their abetting of pedophiles. To feel they hadn't lost all their power and to shut people up those Anti-Reformers who were the most kuckoo in the organization have become crazier than ever.

They must have reasoned, if the kingdom isn't coming literally, then we'll make it come invisibly by exerting real power and there are tools, pretty cheap but able now, that can help us do this.

A different elder told me the sweet fruits that come from the most fanatically devoted Anti-Reformers doing as they do prove that their efforts are really okay. Maybe the Nazi named Adolf Eichmann and his partners felt much the same.

There are still a lot of good people trapped in the Watchtower organization. They exist there not because they think it is so good but because they don't want to lose all their family and friends. But while having to stay put there they cut their donations of time and money.

Really the Watchtower is being choked to death from the top down, not by those of us who see this happening and are on the bottom tier but by those sitting in Brooklyn who stifle all freedom of expression.

On the other hand, the more they do this the more they suffocate the organization, so at least there is something to come of it. Slowly but surely the ship is sinking.

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I think I might have a DEMON in the house!!!!!...Spooky!

by Legolas in

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for about a week or so now!

it all started one day when i was in the laundy room and i heard my husband pull up in the driveway, shut his door, unlock the door to the house, shut the house door, so i go down to greet him ( with a big kiss and hug, as i always do

anyway i get down stairs and he is not there so i assumed that he was already out feeding comet!

wanda

The person who posted is the victim of long range sound and voice technology. After I posted this several of you ignored me and made the equivalent of laughter at the person. Why laugh at a victim?

Go back and read my other post on LRADs. Some are miniature (as small as and smaller than the projecting part of a pager) and others that the U.S. Army uses are large.

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Miniature and large LRAD weapons used by U.S. army, businesses and cults

by wanda in

i mentioned this in another forum then realized it would also fit here, so i edited it a little and here it is again.

a ministerial servants' head told me confidentially he and some friends had harrassed an oklahoma city sister who partook of the emblems by using miniaturized sound and voice making devices.

in some congregations the elder body and their closest pioneer sisters also don't like jws and ex-jws they think are big-mouths because they are afraid they will tell about things like child molesting.

wanda

You are trying to pooh-pooh it and blow it off. Read the links.

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Miniature and large LRAD weapons used by U.S. army, businesses and cults

by wanda in

i mentioned this in another forum then realized it would also fit here, so i edited it a little and here it is again.

a ministerial servants' head told me confidentially he and some friends had harrassed an oklahoma city sister who partook of the emblems by using miniaturized sound and voice making devices.

in some congregations the elder body and their closest pioneer sisters also don't like jws and ex-jws they think are big-mouths because they are afraid they will tell about things like child molesting.

wanda

I mentioned this in another forum then realized it would also fit here, so I edited it a little and here it is again.

A ministerial servants' head told me confidentially he and some friends had harrassed an Oklahoma City sister who partook of the emblems by using miniaturized sound and voice making devices.

In some congregations the elder body and their closest pioneer sisters also don't like JWs and ex-JWs they think are big-mouths because they are afraid they will tell about things like child molesting.

Some Mormons and covens also use the latest technologies. Where's this stuff come from? I'm just guessing brothers who used to be in U.S. intelligence come by the devices.

So nobody thinks I'm making all this up here's a picture of a much larger U.S. army LRAD (Long Range Acoustical Device). http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/ptech/03/03/sonic.weapon.ap/

Those send out ear-splitting noises, and not long ago an ocean liner owned by a private firm and called the Seabourn Spirit used an LRAD against a boat of pirates who had attacked http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4418748.stm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051108/ap_on_fe_st/pirate_attack_sonic_weapon

Spencers and many other novelty stores sell prankster noise and voice devices for about $15-20, but those are fairly large and unsophisticated compared to the military and cult equipment. http://shop.store.yahoo.com/trcfm/sounthatdriv.html http://www.prankplace.com/rc.htm

Spying is really nothing new among cults, criminals in business and voyeurs. Wiretapping goes back to almost as long ago as there's been telephones, and parabolic mikes have been used a lot in recent times, but using of long range harrassing or stalking devices is new stuff.

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I think I might have a DEMON in the house!!!!!...Spooky!

by Legolas in

jw
friends

for about a week or so now!

it all started one day when i was in the laundy room and i heard my husband pull up in the driveway, shut his door, unlock the door to the house, shut the house door, so i go down to greet him ( with a big kiss and hug, as i always do

anyway i get down stairs and he is not there so i assumed that he was already out feeding comet!

wanda

A ministerial servants' head told me confidentially he and some friends had harrassed an Oklahoma City sister who partook of the emblems by using miniaturized sound and voice making devices.

In some congregations the elder body and their closest pioneer sisters also don't like JWs and ex-JWs they think are big-mouths because they are afraid will tell about things like child molesting.

Some Mormons and covens also use the latest technologies. Where's this stuff come from? I'm just guessing brothers who used to be in U.S. intelligence come by the devices.

So nobody thinks I'm making all this up here's a picture of a much larger U.S. army LRAD (Long Range Acoustical Device). http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/ptech/03/03/sonic.weapon.ap/

Those send out ear-splitting noises, and not long ago an ocean liner called the Seabourn Spirit when off Somalia made a boat of pirates stop their attack by using an LRAD on them. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4418748.stm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051108/ap_on_fe_st/pirate_attack_sonic_weapon

Spencers and many other novelty stores sell prankster noise and voice devices for about $15-20, but those are fairly large and unsophisticated compared to the military and cult equipment. http://shop.store.yahoo.com/trcfm/sounthatdriv.html http://www.prankplace.com/rc.htm

Spying is really nothing new among cults and voyeurs. Wiretapping goes back to almost as long ago as there's been telephones, and parabolic mikes have been used a lot in recent times, but using of long range harrassing or stalking devices is new stuff.