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I'm a newbie!!

by Poodles in

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this is my first time in this forum!

i joined because i would like to understand the witness way of life w/o joining!!

all debates welcome!!

wanda

For example, they teach against Easter yet read

HOW CHRISTIANS CAN BETTER DISCUSS EASTER, THE RABBITS AND EGGS

In fact although many encyclopedias repeat the speculation of "the Venerable Bede," an 8th Century scholar, that Easter may come from the name of the Anglo-Saxon goddess Eastre, the Latin "Hebdonada Alba” (White Week) a spring week when people wore white to be baptized as Christians, was mistranslated as Eostarum which became Easter.

Also the Anglo-Saxon word "eastre" means easterly or eastern, a reminder Christianity entered

When Christianity reached in the 1500s, eggs and rabbits were used as symbols of the resurrection hope of new life, rabbits famed for bearing new life in spring and appearing first here remindful of how Christ appeared various places after resurrected.

Colossians 2:16 says “Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day” so although a few don’t celebrate Easter, these reasons are why the vast majority do and with full scriptural approval.

Knowing these things also gives Christians the joy of sharing the information with non-Christians so that they can know when about to die that because of Christ they too have the hope being resurrected to be with their loved ones again.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChristianWitnesses/ provides more free leaflets like this

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Tips For Informative Letters To Active JWs

by wanda in

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how effective is it?

mailing information to active jws works though elders try hard to discourage it by saying from the platform that it is a waste of time by those who are former jws to send literature to grassroot members.

they do so hoping those who would send it or do send will overhear it and quit.

wanda

HOW EFFECTIVE IS IT?

Mailing information to active JWs works though elders try hard to discourage it by saying from the platform that it is a waste of time by those who are former JWs to send literature to grassroot members.

They do so hoping those who would send it or do send will overhear it and quit. It's just an estimate but my observation is that maybe one in ten quit but about 50% are effected in the sense that they stop donating as much money and spend less time banging doors, instead focusing more time on helping their families, resting etc.

Some of those will also eventually quit altogether, so overall the effect may be that 25-30% will quit, many of the others not outright quit but quit also in the sense of decreasing support and do so either immediately or later.

WHAT TO SEND:

I find two of the best things to inform about are the silentlambs.org pedophile policy and the secret working with the U.N. as an NGO and still yet though not as formally. It's also handy to point to some of the scripture misteachings. I like to wrap up with something such as "Please pass along and/or leave about copies of this to help others." Keep it 100% factual. Sending copies of newspaper clippings or references to those is good. Many also like to use postcards.

WHO TO SEND IT TO:

Send it to non-elders especially younger JWs as they will give it to one or both of the parents who will in turn pass it on to elders. In that way many eyes will see the information.

WHERE TO SEND IT:

If an active JW then you quietly find out where other JWs live then mail to them. If not an active JW but formerly so you may remember names or even have an old address/phonebook. If the book is old then you can look in a recent phonebook for the people's names which also usually includes an address and phone number. Too, many libraries have city directories.

Often active JWs live in houses on or near the block where a Kingdom Hall is, and also people who live in those houses who aren't JWs get more frequent visits and so may pass along whatever they get to those JWs who come knocking, so you can also especially send informative material to houses close to Kingdom Halls.

WHEN TO SEND IT:

The sooner you send it the better. Any time is good. Realize though that as soon as you do elders may start warning other active JWs to throw it away so it's good to send a whole bunch of informative letters out at the same time to active JWs in one or multiple congregation. Next wait a while, maybe months or a year or two then resend perhaps in a different size or color of envelope.

Now.... please add your own tips below to encourage this worthy effort:

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Elders accuse us of Mail Fraud

by inbyathread in

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well the sh*t has finally hit the fan now.

it seems that several families in the neillsville / marshfield area have received packages with apostatetm material enclosed.

at the service meeting last thursday night in two (count them) two congregations the elders have announced that a mail fraud scheme is in the area with packages arriving at publishers homes.

wanda

It is very effective to mail information to active JWs. I have and can tell you that I know it is.

If it wasn't then elders wouldn't be directed to try so hard to discourage it. They preach it is a waste of time to send literature to grassroot members hoping those who do so will overhear it and quit. Don't.

I find two of the best things to inform about are the silentlambs.org pedophile policy and the secret working with the U.N. as an NGO and still yet though not as formally.

It's also handy to point to some of the scripture misteachings.

It's just an estimate but my observation is that maybe one in ten quit but about 50% are effected in the sense that they stop donating as much money and spend less time banging doors, instead focusing more time on helping their families, resting etc.

Some of those will also eventually quit altogether, so overall the effect may be that 25-30% will quit, many of the others not outright quit but quit also in the sense of decreasing support.

Keep up the good work.

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Canadian Ex-JW Father Article In Forbes Magazine - Link and the Article

by wanda in

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http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2006/03/09/ap2583268.html

so now it's in forbes as well as been on cnn.

it's a big news story the watchtower wish to go away.

wanda

Contact Lawrence Hughes first by emailing him at [email protected] then ask him to give you his phone number to speak personally. He has a solid chance of winning but to do so needs funds for an attorney to keep pushing the case. The Watchtower hopes he'll quit and go away but his motivation is strong, to help keep other children (and adults) from senseless deaths.

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Canadian Ex-JW Father Article In Forbes Magazine - Link and the Article

by wanda in

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http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2006/03/09/ap2583268.html

so now it's in forbes as well as been on cnn.

it's a big news story the watchtower wish to go away.

wanda

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2006/03/09/ap2583268.html

So now it's in Forbes as well as been on CNN. It's a Big News story the Watchtower wish to go away. Why not donate to his legal efforts to keep up the battle:

CALGARY, Alberta (AP) - A grieving father says he will continue his fight against Jehovah's Witnesses and their prohibition of blood transfusions after a court decision partially cleared the way for a wrongful death lawsuit.

Lawrence Hughes filed the 2004 claim as executor of the estate of his daughter, Bethany, who died from acute leukemia in 2002 at age 17 after repeatedly refusing conventional treatment because of the faith's teaching.

A judge decided Hughes cannot proceed with claims against the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society because the court cannot arbitrate religious dogma. But Hughes can continue suing lawyers Shane Heath Brady and David Miles Gnam, Witnesses who represented Bethany, her mother Arliss and the Watch Tower.

The judge said the lawyers were not in a position to advise Bethany objectively, so that she could make a free and informed decision. Brady called the ruling "silly."

Hughes contends that the ruling means "a religious sect or cult can be held responsible for the injury they inflict on others, whether it relates to deliberately giving out misleading medical information or using institutional coercion." He said he might appeal the ruling so he can also proceed against the Watch Tower directly.

Bethany's illness garnered attention across Canada and renewed public debate over the circumstances under which someone under age 18 should be able to decide on medical care.

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CLARIFICATIONS ABOUT LAWSIUT

by SHUNNED FATHER in

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for those who do not know, there is an article in forbes magazine about my lawsuit.

i wish to take the time to thank everyone who have helped me in the past and who are helping me now.

i will try to clear up a few things.. the watchtower lawyers who live and work at the wts hq are defendants.

wanda

It's in forbes online in the religious section. You have to scroll down about three paragraphs then it's there. Here it is: http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2006/03/09/ap2583268.html

Father to continue battle with Jehovah's Witnesses over daughter's death

CALGARY, Alberta (AP) - A grieving father says he will continue his fight against Jehovah's Witnesses and their prohibition of blood transfusions after a court decision partially cleared the way for a wrongful death lawsuit.

Lawrence Hughes filed the 2004 claim as executor of the estate of his daughter, Bethany, who died from acute leukemia in 2002 at age 17 after repeatedly refusing conventional treatment because of the faith's teaching.

A judge decided Hughes cannot proceed with claims against the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society because the court cannot arbitrate religious dogma. But Hughes can continue suing lawyers Shane Heath Brady and David Miles Gnam, Witnesses who represented Bethany, her mother Arliss and the Watch Tower.

The judge said the lawyers were not in a position to advise Bethany objectively, so that she could make a free and informed decision. Brady called the ruling "silly."

Hughes contends that the ruling means "a religious sect or cult can be held responsible for the injury they inflict on others, whether it relates to deliberately giving out misleading medical information or using institutional coercion." He said he might appeal the ruling so he can also proceed against the Watch Tower directly.

Bethany's illness garnered attention across Canada and renewed public debate over the circumstances under which someone under age 18 should be able to decide on medical care.

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LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF LAWSUIT AGAINST WATCHTOWER SOCIETY

by SHUNNED FATHER in

the following is a legal description of my lawsuit.

the watchtower lawyers are defendants and the watchtower society is tied into the lawsuit throu the lawyers.. statement of lawrence hughes.

administrator ad litem of the estate of bethany hughes.

wanda

http://www.krev.info/Images/lawrencehughes.jpg

Also use this link to see the freeminds.org item:

http://freeminds.org/lawrencehughes.htm

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Link To Site With Picture Of Lawrence Hughes (ExJW Suing WTS Attorneys)

by wanda in

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http://www.krev.info/images/lawrencehughes.jpg

also use this link to see the freeminds.org item:

http://freeminds.org/lawrencehughes.htm

wanda

http://www.krev.info/Images/lawrencehughes.jpg

Also use this link to see the freeminds.org item:

http://freeminds.org/lawrencehughes.htm

News of his battle since the untimely death of his daughter Bethany has been in numerous Canadian newspapers and recently was on CNN.com.

He needs our help as also seen at the freeminds.org link. If you've lost a loved one over the blood issue etc, this should have added meaning for you. All with JW family members should also be especially concerned and help. His battle is ours too.

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Governing Body and Blood

by lighthouse1956 in

have any gb members died from refusing blood?

or have any ever accepted blood?

wanda

Interesting.

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LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF LAWSUIT AGAINST WATCHTOWER SOCIETY

by SHUNNED FATHER in

the following is a legal description of my lawsuit.

the watchtower lawyers are defendants and the watchtower society is tied into the lawsuit throu the lawyers.. statement of lawrence hughes.

administrator ad litem of the estate of bethany hughes.

wanda

In that people who watch CNN around the earth already know what those two attorneys did to Lawrence's daughter, Lawrence has already won: that is, PUBLICITY WORLDWIDE worth more than money!