God forbid anyone's feelings should ever be hurt
I got a plastic bubble for sale. Anyone want to buy it, climb in and get in the fetal position?
Edited by - RandomTask on 19 December 2002 15:13:37
been here awhile now, mostly as a lurker, but while reading alot of posts, i feel justified in formulating an opinion on who the coolest person on this board is.
so my vote goes to ....drum roll.... .
valis .
God forbid anyone's feelings should ever be hurt
I got a plastic bubble for sale. Anyone want to buy it, climb in and get in the fetal position?
Edited by - RandomTask on 19 December 2002 15:13:37
in today's copy of the scotsman there's an article on people that don't celebrate christmas for a variety of reasons and sure enough a witness family are featured.
they are spending christmas day on the beach in the canary islands and after pointing out the fact that the 25th is christ's birthday go on to say.
"it would be churlish to say that our children are not affected by peer pressure about christmas, but we feel bigger issues are at stake - independant thought and standing up for what you believe in.
Preaching to the choir Vita!
been here awhile now, mostly as a lurker, but while reading alot of posts, i feel justified in formulating an opinion on who the coolest person on this board is.
so my vote goes to ....drum roll.... .
valis .
me
in the bible, who are the small flock and who are the great crowed, and what do they have to do with jehovah?
how is the spiritual food distributed to gods people.
what relation does jesus have with the anointed remnant, and who are they?
Thats what he wrote back to you Else? Thats terrible
Although he is willing to discuss these issues with you which is amazing. Keep at him while he leaves the door ajar.
Edited by - RandomTask on 19 December 2002 14:50:32
i told my husband last week that i didn't plan on going to chats or forums.
we've been trying very hard to stay on neutral ground.
we began by just researching all the history of jws and turning to the publications published by the society, to either back the history we were reading, or to dispel it.
Me and my wife kind of did the fast fade. I was really sick and stopped going to meetings while she went a couple of times and when I was better I told my wife, I'm not going back and she said, ok. We got a visit from a couple of elders once but we were HBH and they have bothered us less and less over the years. The thing that hurts though is My wife's sister is only 15 and her mom limits their association even though they are really close. But considering some of the sories I've read, I'd consider us lucky.
I'd just want to encourage you guys that you are doing the right thing for your immediate family. Your witness family may shun you, but hopefully some of them are less rigid.
many come to this board with wounds from the past in the jdub dom.
sometimes this place just pours salt in these wounds, attacking peoples character and support groups that people seek refuge.
(ie silent lambs) im sure in disgust many have vacated the board.
This place is whatever you make of it and whatever you take from it. Nothing more, nothing less.
i'm just 'stopping by briefly' lol to wish happy holidays to old friends who may still be posting/lurking here...so many of you come to my mind on a regular basis, things you've said long ago continue to return to me when i need them and keep me going in a strong, forward direction.
my family continues to be amazed by the fact that four and a half years after my df'ing, i still haven't caved in and gone back.
for me, there is no going back.
Excellent, excellent post Primadonna. Your Bajoran reference makes a lot of sense. Thank you for sharing!
the watchtower february 1st 1956 issue, page 95:.
the watchtower february 1st 1960 issue, page 80:.
the watchtower august 1st 1962 issue, page 460:.
these attitudes are HARDLY exclusive to JW's. I think you can effectively replace JW with U.S. and it would be just as accurate.
True, but I have never seen physical discipline so STRESSED outside of the organization. In fact, outside of the organization, attitudes are quite different and if people agree with spanking then they are not very outspoken about it. However, in the organization, those who do not spank are sometimes looked down upon and those who think you should spank are very outspoken. The fact that many fundamental religions believe the same as the witnesses do in this matter only serves to catagorize the witness group with other harsh and rigid, rules based religions.
the watchtower february 1st 1956 issue, page 95:.
the watchtower february 1st 1960 issue, page 80:.
the watchtower august 1st 1962 issue, page 460:.
I think though that you have to consider how these attitudes, even though out of print, have prevailed through JW culture to this day. Much of the way the Witnesses come to believe what they do is through the spoken word and not just in print. I'm sure we all could come out with much, albeit anecdotal, evidence of how witness parents still abide by these words today because older witnesses have kept the attitudes alive through their comments at the meetings or through public talks or through private council given by elders. Once Ideas like these were released into the "wild", even way back in the 50's and 60's they have germinated and spread through the cult like weeds.
...as long as they use these magnets!
and you thought it was a far fetched idea!
edited by - professor on 18 december 2002 23:45:46.
Laughing at Edison and Einstein, Ha Ha!