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  Any of you worked for Primerica? My experience at their "seminar."

  by truthseeker in

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  a few weeks ago, a brother called me out of the blue and asked me if i was interested in working for him.

  he told me he had his own business and was looking to "expand.

  " he told me i "was a special person" with "good qualities" and "capable of going places.

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  Sorry, let me clarify because I realize people do this legitimately chevys, but you just have to know my wifes cousin. Her attitude is one of laziness and an unwillingness to work for something and so everything she tries to do, to "get around" the conventional way of making money, turns to crap. It is this attitude and a lack of common sense that caused her to drain her parents savings (although they admittedly had other problems of their own) and has now drained her rich husband and is getting money from her rich in-laws. Its just a shame to see so much money and so many 'ventures' go to complete crap because of her ineptitude. This would not be the first of her schemes or ventures.

  I mean, she is still a pleasant person to be around, but she doesn't have the sense God gave a spitoon. I see a lot of this when it comes to witnesses. And not all witnesses, but certainly there is a subculture within the witness group that subscribes to this notion of "money for nothing". Yes she is an avid seminar-goer.
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  Any of you worked for Primerica? My experience at their "seminar."

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a few weeks ago, a brother called me out of the blue and asked me if i was interested in working for him.

  he told me he had his own business and was looking to "expand.

  " he told me i "was a special person" with "good qualities" and "capable of going places.

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  When I first moved out of my moms house I had a couple of friends who were witnesses and we all got a house together. Well specifically me and one of my friends rented a house and our other friend, who had no job, lived in the den. We felt sorry for him because he had a very domineering mother.

  Anyway, this out of work friend of course had a plan to make money, that plan was Primerica. Of course he wanted to sign us up, which we politely refused. 6 months went by and he made absolutely nothing on this venture, all the while, my friend and I were paying the rent and the bills, allowing him to live for free. When I got married this person was my best man.

  After moving and subsequently leaving the witnesses, me and this person lost touch until this past April, when I saw him at a baseball game. We emailed each other back and forth a couple of times, and he asked me how I was doing in "the truth". I explained that I don't go and I don't believe it, but I don't want to make it an issue and I respect his beliefs. He suspiciously stopped emailing me back, which with witnesses is not entirely unexpected.

  I had forgotten about him until just about a week ago, my brother in law, who is a witness, says that he saw this individual at a sort of witness softball game and told him "hey, I should have brought (me) it could have been a reuinion". This individual then launches into a tirade on my brother in law, about what he percieved to be my character or lack thereof. He did this in front of another former associate, who was also in my wedding who stood there stunned.

  So to sum this story up, Primerica sucks, and the witnesses seem to be infected with this "get rich quick" scheme disease like no other group I have been associated with. I mean, my wifes cousin, who is a witness, has as her latest scheme, buying forcloseures and reselling them. Or profiting on the tribulations of others. I mean, I guess its ok seeing as how they are all going to die soon anyway, right? soon? Anyway, this venture will undoubtedly fail like every other scheme she has come up with in the last 5 years.

  It seems that witness culture in general leaves someone bereft of fellow feeling for other humans, it also seems to strip them of common sense. I don't know if those are symptoms of being a witness or causes though.
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  Black Veil Lowers again?

  by H. in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello i am new and this will probably be the last time i post.

  nice forum by the way but honestly and with all due respect it is not something i would like to be associated with.

  i joined saying "oh cool a jw forum" but after reading just 2 posts i realized it is the black veil all over again.

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  Let's be easy on H. We were just the same once.

  Exactly.
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  There's a really good article in the magazine...

  by Nosferatu in

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  2. beliefs

  what always blew my mind was that whenever an article in the watchtower, awake, or any wt publication is when someone refers to a part of the publication and says, "there's a really good article in here about bla bla bla".

  i've heard many jws use it at the doors, use it at the kingdom hall, etc.

  my question is, when is there ever a bad article?

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  No freedom of thought. Its not natural human behavior. Did God create us with free will and independent thought only to have them be rendered meaningless by a religion?
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  Reflection on My Third Anniversary on JWD

  by blondie in

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  i can still remember when i first posted all those years ago.

  i was still an active jw but was drawn to the amazing conversations (and fights) on jwd.

  h2o was dwindling and the refugees were coming here.

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  PLEASE keep up the WT reviews. So great!
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  Why Oh why !

  by blobby in

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  now don't get me wrong....i'm on the way out (no not the closet !

  why do you ex jw's still keep coming onto this web site (ok i know its interesting etc) and dipping your toes in?

  i'd of thought you'd want to forget everything !.

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  RandomTask

  Its fun.

  Plus, in my case I am still fascinated by JW and X-JW culture, and sometimes still affected directly by it.
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  Black Veil Lowers again?

  by H. in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello i am new and this will probably be the last time i post.

  nice forum by the way but honestly and with all due respect it is not something i would like to be associated with.

  i joined saying "oh cool a jw forum" but after reading just 2 posts i realized it is the black veil all over again.

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  RandomTask

  H.

  Do not be disturbed by what you percieve as snide comments from some, for if you have been around this site for some time you would see that there have been many who "hit and run", quick to make accusations, say something they feel as would make God proud and scurry away before a real dialogue can be engaged. Their purpose is merely to stir things up, much in the same way many people do on discussion boards that have nothing to do with any kind of religion. It is human, and not just "worldly" nature to get annoyed at such behavior and it seemed that you were merely just another one of those people.

  What impressed me is that you actually came back to read what kind of response you would get, possibly in order to strengthen your own faith in what you currently believe by the reactions of others who don't believe as you do. This is fine, this is human nature as well. In fact when you get down to it, we all are compelled by our own nature to believe things, to fear things, to love things, etc. Each of us combines human nature with our own beliefs to get us to where we are.

  My only wish for you is not that you tear down your faith, or that you believe as I do, or that you believe anything at all, my wish for you is that you respect yourself enough to give yourself a well rounded knowledge of the world around you, history and human nature. Give yourself knowledge and facts from many sources and then re-evaluate what "truth" is, within yourself. Take off your Watchtower colored glasses and in the spirit of Acts 17:11 determine if what you are hearing is true. Truth always stands up to scrutiny and truth never has any need to be afraid. Do you have the truth? Then ask yourself, what are you afraid of?

  This is not mental trickery or word play, it is merely one mans opinion as stated to you plainly in all sincerety. I wish you peace in your life, but remember that no matter what any of us believe, we all wake up in the morning, live our life and go to sleep at night. We all are more similar than you may think or believe. Above all, we all want whats best for ourselves and our families.
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  Guards at Stadium Conventions during Song and Prayer

  by VM44 in

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  when did the wt start having guards come out during the song and prayer at stadium conventions?

  i noticed this at a convention in san diego, right before the song begins, a bunch of "brothers" come out and stand at key positions facing the seats, and scan the audience!

  they remain until after the prayer, and they do not bow their heads during the prayer, but keep scanning the audience.

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  Actually, I do remember one incident when I was a child at the Assembly Hall in Escondido. A guy who looked homeless started walking up the aisle and shouting "Blasphemers! Blasphemers!" 4 elders bum rushed the guy and dragged him off.
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  Guards at Stadium Conventions during Song and Prayer

  by VM44 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when did the wt start having guards come out during the song and prayer at stadium conventions?

  i noticed this at a convention in san diego, right before the song begins, a bunch of "brothers" come out and stand at key positions facing the seats, and scan the audience!

  they remain until after the prayer, and they do not bow their heads during the prayer, but keep scanning the audience.

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  I love that stadium, it's my favorite. Those little curly q things were loads of fun to race your friends down.

  Yeah, much better than Dodger Stadium
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  I'm ill

  by ball. in

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  RandomTask

  Definitely something going around. Many people I know right now are sick with flu-like symptoms.

  Could it be ... THE END?!