my roommate(baptized) met with 2 elders last night and gave them "the discoveries of barbara anderson".
she told them that she believed mrs. anderson was telling the truth.
she didn't think that mrs. anderson would have given so many years of service to jehovah and then just walk away.
It really helps your argument to call others names.
The point isn't "what everybody knows"....
The point is should a moderator post a person's ID ...whether "everybody knows it" or not.
Stay on point and avoid calling names....it'll make you seem smarter.
since so many of you keep avoiding the primary issue in two other threads, chew on this one!
terry said this: .
>life is at the basis of reality for humans.
Really, then how can it be 'moral' to abort a premature baby of say, 3 months, 6 months or almost due and partially birth him/her as you kill it? If that is 'moral' then what about just dumping them in the trash can, after all it is a woman's right now to kill any life within her if she so chooses? Why should that few inches from womb to exit make any difference? Why is it 'immoral' to execute a murderer but not 'immoral' to abort a baby (a typical liberal belief contradiction)? I remember the 60's and 70's well. This kind of thing was practically unheard of and now it is ROUTINE. Society is on the downward grade and just like Rome, this civilization is headed for a fall.Again I ask, if their is no absolute truth then how can you justify any law? How can there be any moral law when you refuse to admit there must be a Divine Arbiter to set that moral law? I have just used one of the same examples again to help you recognize (and admit the validity of) the point.
You totally rock, Rex!
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haven't seen him post for a while?
has he been disfellowshipped?
Haven't seen him post for a while?
Has he been disfellowshipped?
our governer, jennifer granholm and other governors have come up with a petition to cap oil company profits and bring the price of gas down.
please read about it.
please sign it and encourage everyone you know to sign it.
Swalker,
Ad hominum attacks. AGAIN !?!
Attack his arguments, not his language.
He called you a name, so …if you must…return the favor but let’s see some substance on the arguments, man.
our governer, jennifer granholm and other governors have come up with a petition to cap oil company profits and bring the price of gas down.
please read about it.
please sign it and encourage everyone you know to sign it.
I respect my dad's intelligence wisdom and ideas more than yours. You aren't always the most balanced of posters. He is a scientist as are most of his circle of friends.
If I get a note from my mommy can I use it to try to win an argument?
So because your daddy and his friends and a few vote-seeking governors say something about the almost unfathomable field of macro economics and geopolitical economic forces, you adopt their view?
Do you realize that you called others “gullible” in this thread?
I am not embarrassed except by some posters' apathy and gullability over this issue
You have yet to root out the JW mentality of looking to others to salve your discomfort over the disquieting world oil situation. You seem to want to point fingers and you seem to embrace easy fixes? A petition?
My heart goes out to you as you struggle from your obviously thick mental fog.
our governer, jennifer granholm and other governors have come up with a petition to cap oil company profits and bring the price of gas down.
please read about it.
please sign it and encourage everyone you know to sign it.
I am not embarrassed except by some posters' apathy and gullability over this issue. We aren't JW's anymore. We have no excuse for being gullable.
I don't want to be unkind but you obviously know little about the true reasons the gas price increases and unfortunately they are, as has been repeated in this thread many times, supply and demand.... at the core.
As to gullability: do you realize that you cited the fact that several governors were signing this petition as an indicant that it might have some value?
When several governors of states here are suspicious of the big oil companies, then that is big news, Ballistic.
"Big news" indeed. You poor thing.
FHN, politicians are not trustworthy. They might acctually do something that plays well with their constiuents....something stunt-like....something ...I dunno'...something like signing a petition to the President to lower gas prices.
Take Daniel's adbvice and sheepishly let this one slowly slide down on the board.
our governer, jennifer granholm and other governors have come up with a petition to cap oil company profits and bring the price of gas down.
please read about it.
please sign it and encourage everyone you know to sign it.
The president sets gas prices?
That wasn't taught in my civics and economics classes.
If gas is too high stop purchasing it.
"petition to President Bush to lower gas prices" ...pretty ridiculous.
she found an envelope with my name and "personal & confidential" typed on it taped to the door of our apartment.
i asked her to open it and read it, and evidently there is some evidence of apostacy that they want to review with me this saturday (4-21-06) at 7:30 pm.. the funny thing is that i have not been to a meeting since 1993, the last time i was at a circuit assembly or district convention was 1995!
i know that i have been spotted going to my church (3 blocks from the king-dumb hell).
If one of the elders was a Catholic 10 years ago and his former priest visted his home and left a note telling the elder to come to the Catholic Church for a discussion of his spiritual views, what would the elder do?
The same thing most folks would do: laugh at the audacity of the Priest and move on with our life.
I think you should follow the Elder's example.
many of you have been following the book excerpts from captive hearts, captive minds which is being reprinted under its new title take back your life.
in a recent email from the author, janja lalich, i noticed a url for another book she has published titled bounded choice: true believers and charismatic cults.
this sounds like an interesting book.
I have this book and have read it. It is an academic treatment (although the descriptions of Heaven's gate and DWP are narrative). I read her dissertation first...and then bought the book which is not that different.
It's academic but enlightening. Some of the bounded choice model might work to explain JWs ....if that's possible at all.
For the casual reader, I'd recommend borrowing from the library over purchase.
jehovah's witnesses: from publisher to elder in six months
by john meyers.
too funny.
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES: FROM PUBLISHER TO ELDER IN SIX MONTHS | ||
| by JOHN MEYERS | ||
| Printed: $12.99 | ||
This self-help book is for men who have been constantly overlooked for the position of Elder in their congregations. If you are a publisher or a Ministerial Servant and have been waiting years to become an elder while brothers who came into the Truth after you have been appointed Elder, then this book is for you. We do not preach to you nor do we quote scripture. This book was written especially for you by very experienced Jehovah's Witnesses. This is a candid book that shows you exactly what you need to do to get the appointment of Elder that you seek. This book takes a sometimes lighthearted look at what it takes to be an Elder. We should never be so serious that we cannot laugh at ourselves.
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