yes whole wheat, those same problems existed in the early christian churches, the catholic church.......and every church.......are they god's chosen organization?........ how come jws is even worse than most churches today?........ are you saying that is evidence that they for sure are god's people?
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YES! I AM FREE AT LAST!
by Kjell Hedblom ini just got out from jw bye a d.f.
4 weeks ago after 44 years as an active jw.am i insane or why am i having that great feeling of freedom??
i am sitting here infront of the computer having a cold beer and just enjoying life.shouldnt i be crying and having a depression sitting here in tears over missing all my jw friends that now are vanished??.
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Tate Atkinson?
by Incense_and_Peppermints inyou were my first crush.
i hope you are no longer one of them (shudder).
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crawdad2
yes, i knew tait............... he never got married as far as i knew, though...........
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BJ's
by hannibal insomeone posted a watchtower article 1972 jan. 1 pgs 30-31 .
questions from readers.
this was regarding a differant topic, but .
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it kinda gives you an idea of how hypnotized jw rank and file members are.......... if they believe their gov body is god's faithful and discreet slave, .........yet on issues as simple as that, they teach total darkness.......... ...... it's like claiming to be an algreba expert, and yet not knowing what one plus one equals.
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What makes Jesus so special?
by Sargon ini've been wondering, what makes jesus so different from the rest of creation that he is granted the title "son of god".
if there was nothing before jehovah, all things are his creation and therefore should be on equal footing.
for jesus to truly be his son, jehovah, would have had to have created a goddess to copulate with, thereby creating a proper male/female relationship from which to form an offspring.
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i guess if jesus is god's son........ it will have to be proven some day......... so far that day isn't here...
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Straw that broke the Camels Back
by Perfection Seeker inso, whats the straw that broke the camels back in your life?
what was the final last straw that made you say thats it- no more?
i have so many-for 15 years i kept getting that last straw-and trying to ignore it- but i think the last straw was when my dad died- everyone kept (keeps) giving me the line of bs about never seeing him again unless i go to meetings.
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the straw came when i stuck with the same congregation for 10 years,,,,,,getting really involved in service......... i got to see exactly how corrupt the P.O. was, (a pioneer elder) ....... and i mean corrupt.......... and all the other elders were afraid of him, and did his will during committe meetings........... he even had the C.O. and the D.O. to shut everyone up, no matter what he was accused of........ i saw him do all the things that people like swaggart and baker do....... and he was always promoted higher and higher.................... i was always reminded to wait on jehovah, and keep my mouth shut, or i would be reproved.......... i finally realized the gov body was just like him.
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My Story
by Mackin ini guess it's time for me to tell my story on this forum.
my parents came into contact with the "truth" during their engagement and so i was born into a borg family and quickly "assimilated.
" the congregation i grew up in however had very liberal views on many subjects, such as higher education, secular careers, and the like.
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crawdad2
hi mackin,...........glad to hear from you.......... i'm glad you were an elder......... you must have seen alot... i'm glad you finally started following your heart, instead of the gov body's misleading teachings, that cause grief....
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YES! I AM FREE AT LAST!
by Kjell Hedblom ini just got out from jw bye a d.f.
4 weeks ago after 44 years as an active jw.am i insane or why am i having that great feeling of freedom??
i am sitting here infront of the computer having a cold beer and just enjoying life.shouldnt i be crying and having a depression sitting here in tears over missing all my jw friends that now are vanished??.
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hi whole wheat,................... so far i havent seen the spirit of god operating on and elders in committe meetings.........or on the gov body of jehovah's witnesses............. many times i have seen the opposite spirit operating, as elders slyly work things to their advantage, hurting the flock, as in the case of silencing molested victims........... the same for the entire organization,,,,,,,,,,matt 24:24 talks about false prophets...... there is no spirit from god directing false prophets like the jw organization....... it's the opposite spirit that is directing them.
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YES! I AM FREE AT LAST!
by Kjell Hedblom ini just got out from jw bye a d.f.
4 weeks ago after 44 years as an active jw.am i insane or why am i having that great feeling of freedom??
i am sitting here infront of the computer having a cold beer and just enjoying life.shouldnt i be crying and having a depression sitting here in tears over missing all my jw friends that now are vanished??.
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crawdad2
hi whole wheat............. what makes you think that people who get disfellowshipped have turned their back on god?........... do you think the holy spirit guides the gov body, and the decisions of the elders?
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Definition: Spiritual Abuse
by Lady Lee indefinition: spiritual abuse .
spiritual abuse is the mistreatment of a person who is in need of help, support or greater spiritual empowerment, with the result of weakening, undermining or decreasing that persons spiritual empowerment the subtle power of spiritual abuse by johnson & vanvonderen .
spiritual abuse occurs when a person in the position of spiritual authority uses his or her position to control another person.
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crawdad2
i would say that the gov body does all that............... also they remove a victims support system, so that the victim is dependant on their abusive system............ many jws become so involved in the abusive circle, that they commit suicide .
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YES! I AM FREE AT LAST!
by Kjell Hedblom ini just got out from jw bye a d.f.
4 weeks ago after 44 years as an active jw.am i insane or why am i having that great feeling of freedom??
i am sitting here infront of the computer having a cold beer and just enjoying life.shouldnt i be crying and having a depression sitting here in tears over missing all my jw friends that now are vanished??.
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crawdad2
hi kjell.....i'm glad you got disfellowshipped!............... did you meet happy man yet?......... he is a jw who firmly believes in the gov body........ he posts here alot, .....he is from sweeden...........he say's the congregations in sweeden don't have problems like the usa.