Posts by crawdad2

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BAD LITTLE JW GIRLS 3

by crawdad2 in

little girl: crying........ he made me do it again.... .

elder: you are lying, you are just making this up.

little girl: crying,...........pleading,.............this is the third time.. how come you don't believe me?.........you know it's true.....cry cry.

hi amac........ so, ...... it's done and over, and we should stop talking about it?........ and it's was just a "tragedy"?...... like an accident?......... it really wasn't full blown wickedness or anything like that?...... and the elders were just nice old men....... who couldn't tell she was being molested by her father, despite her begging them for help,........ especially after they reproved him for doing the same thing to her sister?

............. hahahahaha, amac.....i'll make those insinuations about wicked elders all i want.......... while i was still a jw, a sixteen yr old girl told me and everyone i was with, the P.O. mind raped her, in a committe meeting with his disgusting questions........ and later she was reproved, even though she was repentant, because he wanted more explicit details and she refused to tell him............ i was still a jw, but i knew he did that, and i knew what he was like.......... she never went to a meeting again........... and he is still the P.O......... no one questions him, he has connections all the way up.

most younger children won't know when they are being mind raped.......... they just think the elders don't believe them.

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BAD LITTLE JW GIRLS 3

by crawdad2 in

little girl: crying........ he made me do it again.... .

elder: you are lying, you are just making this up.

little girl: crying,...........pleading,.............this is the third time.. how come you don't believe me?.........you know it's true.....cry cry.

crawdad2

bull shit???............. it was a generic example...... similar to the cousins case...........(i might have some of the details wrong in her case)

let's see now,............. wasn't it one of the cousins girls, allison,......... who was taken to a room beneath the barn and sexually abused by her ministerial servant father over and over and over, as she was growing up?

wasn't that after her ministerial servant father had already been reproved for doing the same thing to his other daughter?.............. and when she was pleading for help from the elders, didn't they tell her she was a liar? .......... even after knowing about everything her sister went through, and reproving her father?

maybe this doesn't sound like a complete horror story to you, cause you think it's not that bad, cause jw elders are good men, with good morals........ and they would never intentionally allow a young girl to be molested over and over and over........ while they call her a liar as she cries.......... as they greedily listen to all the details everytime she comes forward, and yet never call the police.

let's see now, after the ministerial servant father was put in jail, despite the elders, and the whole thing came out in the open, didn't the body of elders who handled that get removed, (cover-up) and so the reporter was talking to a special representative who had been sent there,........ and he mentioned it was all putting alot of pressure on the congregation and didn't want to talk to the reporter because of that.

please correct some of the details if i got them wrong......... this is just the tip of the iceberg.

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BAD LITTLE JW GIRLS 3

by crawdad2 in

little girl: crying........ he made me do it again.... .

elder: you are lying, you are just making this up.

little girl: crying,...........pleading,.............this is the third time.. how come you don't believe me?.........you know it's true.....cry cry.

crawdad2

hi not interested,

patronize?........... i'm not sure how that word fits in here. maybe cause i haven't grown up yet........... can you explain futher?

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BAD LITTLE JW GIRLS 3

by crawdad2 in

little girl: crying........ he made me do it again.... .

elder: you are lying, you are just making this up.

little girl: crying,...........pleading,.............this is the third time.. how come you don't believe me?.........you know it's true.....cry cry.

crawdad2

little girl: crying........ he made me do it again....

elder: you are lying, you are just making this up.

little girl: crying,...........pleading,.............this is the third time.. how come you don't believe me?.........you know it's true.....cry cry.

elder: tell me more details.............. what did he make you do again? tell me everything again every single detail,.....we are in a judicial room at the kingdom hall.

Edited by - crawdad2 on 16 July 2002 12:33:22

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WT Media Strikes Back!!!

by silentlambs in

jw
friends

top story

09 may 2002 letter to bbc panorama

why christian parents can feel secure in their congregation worship

crawdad2

hi bill,

a birdy in a tree keeps saying these words to me, over and over.........."when a report is received, elders contact our national office for guidance."

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Another spin on the "2 witnesses"

by Lady Lee in

16 but if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

ok you go once and try to talk to him and he doesn't listen.

then you go back and "take with thee one or two more".

crawdad2

hi pork chop,

it's about not disqualifying the victim just because there are not 2 witnesses. .......... since when will there ever be 2 witnesses present when a child is being secretly raped? it seems most elders handle it the way brooklyn suggests.......... if the molester says he didn't do it, immediatly stop the investigation!......... are wicked jw elders really qualified to investigate, or should the police do that?

by the way,........ how many molesters admit they do it?

Edited by - crawdad2 on 15 July 2002 19:18:28

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WT Media Strikes Back!!!

by silentlambs in

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friends

top story

09 may 2002 letter to bbc panorama

why christian parents can feel secure in their congregation worship

crawdad2

hi untrusting......welcome to the site........ is it to late to go to the police now?.......... and at least report it?

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Deuteronomy 19:15 and Child Abuse Issue

by stevieb1 in

in the nwt this verse reads: .

"no single witness should rise up against a man respecting any error or any sin, in the case of any sin that he may commit.

at the mouth of two witnesses or at the mouth of three witnesses the matter should stand good.

crawdad2

when a child first comes forward with an accusation of sex abuse....... of course at that point there is only one witness........ after the police investigation there will be more evidence, more witnesses..... the police investigators and evidence will give testimony.

it becomes essential therefore, for wicked elders to stop the investigation, by silencing the whole thing, before the victim gets the needed witnesses.

at the same time they are being guided through the whole silencing process, by the wicked gov body.......... it's a mandatory regulation, that they call brooklyn, in sex abuse cases, and get advise...

Edited by - crawdad2 on 15 July 2002 17:0:38

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HI everyone! Just checking in.....

by Tatiana in

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....so you won't forget me.

lots of new names here.

guess i've been gone longer than i thought.. i miss it here, simon.

crawdad2

hi april.............

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JW protecting molesters on purpuse? Panorama!

by Dacke in

a lot of people here are laughing.

"englishman" wrote (i think):.

"hopefully this will mean that in britain if an elder harasses you before a case comes to court, the elder can be arrested for perverting the course of justice.".

crawdad2

hi again dacke,

so far all you have done is try to side-step everyones answers, and you are very very good at it....... you completely side-stepped my question.............. as far as why do they keep records, what ever the reason is.......they certaily are in on all the child molesting going on..... they know all about it, and are busy promoting silencing the victims, not turning the molesters in.