I've learned how to memorize and repeat plausible sounding arguments without ever having to find out if they're based on fact.
bigmouth
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How being a JW improved my study skills
by Mysterious inwe all saw these barf articles about how kids did better in school because of the skills they learned as jws so i thought i should post all the wonderful benefits i have gained.
-i have learned how to look like i'm paying attention in class without actually doing so [yay participation marks, boo not understanding what's on the test].
-i have learned to underline on autopilot with no intrinsic benefit to my study skills [my book looks like wwiii so why don't i know anything].
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Yet more proofs of God's existence- When will the non-believers get it?
by nvrgnbk inhundreds of irrefutable proofs for god's existence.... http://www.godlessgeeks.com/links/godproof.htm.
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bigmouth
Hyuck ! I laughed out loud at this one;
# ARGUMENT FROM BLINDNESS (II)
(1) God is love.
(2) Love is blind.
(3) Stevie Wonder is blind.
(4) Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
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Thinking of becoming a Witness again and my reasons for doing so :(
by reniaa ini've been a faded jw for 10 years i left because of my failed first marriage, i'm no hypocrite and realised i had left completely so i embraced the world and dived in, only christmas and birthdays i could not get into, they were too foreign to me having never celebrated them, like if i suddenly tried to do ramadan or something like that.. 1/ all the criticisms of the people in the truth you say on here, i've found in the world, warts and all only in the world nothing holds them back from being utterly horrible to you.. 2/ i got stabbed by a worldly boyfriend, i got married 2 times of my own choosing to men outside the truth, the first smoked and was an alcoholic, the second gambled every penny we had and defrauded me out of money after we separated, 2 divorces later i am currently pregnant and a single mum since current boyfriend decided kids was to much of a responsibility and he needed his freedom and i was 'too selfish to expect him to give up his life'.. 3/ parents-in-law!
i have been shunned by them as equal to anything you accuse witness families of and for the silliest of reasons, i had a disabled son and his grandparents said they wanted nothing to do with him because they didn't want to become attached in case he died.. 4/ i miss the honest friendships of the truth, i had friends of all ages from 14 to 80 years old and they genuinely cared for me, many trying to keep me in the faith a long time after i left but i was determined to fade so moved away completely, but i find friendships in the world so shallow in comparison and very hard to sustain :( i've never been a drinker and sometimes thats what friendship means you being a companion for them to goto pub with.. 5/ my recent boyfriend was in a christian religion, i thought why not find out about it, harvest churches if you ever heard of them, unfortunately it still hasn't stop him leaving me pregnant and alone and when i said to him how does he clear that with god, he replies "as long as i repent it doesn't matter" it's like he has a "get out of jail free card" for any wrong-doing in the bible, this is so alien to me and my witness trained conscience.. 6/ i recently out of frustration tried looking into atheism and joined their forums, it wasn't fun, they are as bombastic and arrogant as their religious counterparts can be from any religion, they make a religion out of not believing in god, it's very weird they talk of saving people from believing in god and offer nothing to replace it.
they said to me "be happy you are in reality now and enjoy it" and i thought "well if this is reality i've had enough of it".
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bigmouth
HYM - "..Read the bible that isn't a translation..."
Are you suggesting that reniaa now has to find a Bible in the original Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic ? And why do God or Jesus have to be beseeched for their care and help ??
As a human father of six children I keep a close eye on what my children need and give it to them. I wont let them flounder around forever because they didn't incant the magic words.
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Hello !
by lancelink ineveryone has their own avenue of exit...for some fading is the right way for some like me i wanted a clean break being in for 28 years all adult life it was the only for me...just find your freedom anyway you can live your life and don't look back...
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bigmouth
A pleasure to make your acquaintance lancelink. Thanks for the story.
BTW, how many here remember the secret chimp and Mata Hairy ? -
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Memorial Invite - Brasil.... Image now working.
by The Scotsman in.
billboard advert for memorial in brasil.. i am not sure if the org has done this before???
is this a new method???
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bigmouth
I've not seen billboards like this before.
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Anybody Here Into the Poetess/Punk-Rocker Patti Smith?
by Rapunzel intwo of my favorite songs by her are "horses" and "rock n' roll n*****.
" what do you think of patti smith?
one singer whom she definitely does not get along with is ted nugent.
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bigmouth
Great music still stands as great music should it be drug induced or otherwise.
W A Mozart, Paganini and many other classical musicians used drugs.
I would suggest that a composer is most creative when not drug impaired. His personal habits will not preclude me from enjoying his art -
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How many converts are staying 5 years +?
by Mickey mouse injust wondering because in our congregation i reckon for every 10 that have come in during the past ten years eight of those have gone out?
lots of these people have studied and converted without family so the don't have the sword of damocles of shunning hanging over them.
they also used their brains relatively recently so i think these are the main reasons they bounce back out.
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bigmouth
I guess you would be pretty close MM. Going by the results on the PewForum the JW turnover is about 66%! (i.e. for every 10 new Witnesses baptised, nearly two thirds leave permanently.
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Anybody Here Into the Poetess/Punk-Rocker Patti Smith?
by Rapunzel intwo of my favorite songs by her are "horses" and "rock n' roll n*****.
" what do you think of patti smith?
one singer whom she definitely does not get along with is ted nugent.
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bigmouth
Hi Rapunzel, very fond of Patti Smith although really only paid attention to her later in life. Rock N Roll Nig is brilliant as is most of the Easter album.
Yes, she was brought up by a JW mother.
Oompa, Robert Mapplethorpe really knew how to photograph a woman! -
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I have been Labeled
by The Doc 58 init has finally happened after a year of not attending meetings and so forth.
my cousin emailed me and said that he heard i was an apostate.
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bigmouth
You are now free to start your own religion and draw off people after yourself. I'm told that's what all apostates do. ;)
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Questioning Russell's background is gossip, so don't do it
by Robert7 inso i attended the sunday meeting yesterday, and i saw an example of a preemptive strike against those questioning the borg's russel and rutherford.. after about 25 minutes of the talk of blah blah blah (i cannot even recall any details) the speaker concludes by saying (paraphrased):.
"there are those who wonder about the allegations made against russel and rutherford.
we do not know them, so isn't that gossip?
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bigmouth
"Brothers, we don't know these kiddie - fiddlers do we ? We just hear these awful allegations from Caesars court. It makes us look no better than Christendom so let's hear no more about it." - meaning Legal Dept. have put us into damage control. Shut up or face the consequences.
There's more eyewitness testimony about these two shysters than there is about most characters in the Bible. Yet JW's have no problem discussing and speculating about what they did or didn't do.