Posts by riverofdeceit

if somebody can tell me the difference between the logic in this post and the logic in an orwellian book, pm me and i'll give you my credit card number.. .

i wanted to mention, to all active jehovah's witnesses, that a brother has called to my attention that he is being harassed by apostates.

Don't read apostate stuff. I'll do it for you and let you know if it's ok. It's safe for me cuz i gots the smarts, but you probably don't. Don't worry, I'm lookin out for you, my little sheep/lemmings.

That's my take on it.

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do you think that JW are brainwashed?

by notmyself in

i'm d/f for about 2 years and my dad ( an elder ) hasn't spoke with me since, my mom sometimes talk to me , but i always have to call her , just to see how's she's doing, and guess what, when she answer her phone is : oh, i was preeching!!!.

they're always preeching, but my brother contact me today telling me that we can speak again due to the fact that i'm d/f , what do you guys think?

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riverofdeceit

Here's an example that shocked me - I used to feel physically sick watching any kind of violence - so much so that I couldn't watch boxing on TV - after years of playing utterly violent PC games I found myself watching a boxing match without any feelings of sickness - in fact I was actually getting quite involved in the fight - I changed, I think because I exposed myself to lots of brainwashing stuff.

That is more along the lines of being de-sensitized. Changing your views is not necessarily being brainwashed. For instance, someone who is appalled by the idea of changing a dirty diaper has a kid and learns to get over it. They usually do get over it too. (not in all cases of course) That doesn't mean they've been brainwashed. They just deal with things differently than they used to.

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do you think that JW are brainwashed?

by notmyself in

i'm d/f for about 2 years and my dad ( an elder ) hasn't spoke with me since, my mom sometimes talk to me , but i always have to call her , just to see how's she's doing, and guess what, when she answer her phone is : oh, i was preeching!!!.

they're always preeching, but my brother contact me today telling me that we can speak again due to the fact that i'm d/f , what do you guys think?

?

riverofdeceit

Some are completely, most are to some extent. If they aren't at all, then they aren't really Jehovah's Witnesses, they just say they are. They are nourished on what seems to be a neverending supply of recycled propaganda, and are taught that to learn anything else on their own else could/will kill them, "spiritually" and/or literally (at least, eventually). Brainwashed by fear. The idea of being sheep is comforting. That, however, always scared me the most. To me, being a sheep is the equivalent of being a lemming. I grew two horns and a beard. Do you think that is why they look down upon facial hair?

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very weird happening.

by riverofdeceit in

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i was just sitting here reading some posts and the phone rang.

my wife looked at the caller id and it said jehovahs witness!!!!

she hands me the phone.

riverofdeceit

it is holy spirit in operation

Obviously. Reminds me of those stories: Such and such person was going to commit suicide, they prayed and lo and behold, some JW's stopped at their door! Little did they know that this was almost a fate worse than suicide. You get to live, but you become a zombie/slave to an institution that controls everything you think and do.

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very weird happening.

by riverofdeceit in

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friends

i was just sitting here reading some posts and the phone rang.

my wife looked at the caller id and it said jehovahs witness!!!!

she hands me the phone.

riverofdeceit

I was just sitting here reading some posts and the phone rang. My wife looked at the caller ID and it said JEHOVAHS WITNESS!!!! She hands me the phone. Turns out to be another wrong number for the mysterious Laura (not us, we get lots of calls from people for her whomever she is).

I was like, "sh*t, they found me and want to talk!" Not that they matter to me really, especially around here since I don't know any JW's here. Just that heart skipping a beat thing when you are driving the speed limit and following the road laws and you round a corner and there is a cop. Still makes you nervous though you have no reason. Good thing I'm not superstitious!

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How do you think the world will end?

by free2beme in

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i was watching this national geographic program called "the end" the other day.

it showed different events that could end mankind and possibly the planet.

in each one, there is true in possibilities and they never showed an example of god destroying the world.

riverofdeceit

With rolling credits followed by: THE END or maybe porky pig going ebedeet ebedeet ebedeet ebedeet... thats all folks.

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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?

by Schizm in

as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.

18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".

riverofdeceit

If you believe in demons and whatnot you might not want to read this, you may become "possessed".

THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST

I left alone my mind was blank
I needed time to think to get the memories from my mind

What did I see can I believe that what I saw
That night was real and not just fantasy

Just what I saw in my old dreams were they
Reflections of my warped mind staring back at me

Cos in my dreams it’s always there the evil face that twists my mind
And brings me to despair

The night was black was no use holding back
Cos I just had to see was someone watching me
In the mist dark figures move and twist
Was all this for real or some kind of hell
666 the number of the beast
Hell and fire was spawned to be released

Torches blazed and sacred chants were praised
As they start to cry hands held to the sky
In the night the fires burning bright
The ritual has begun satan’s work is done
666 the number of the beast
Sacrifice is going on tonight

This can’t go on I must inform the law
Can this still be real or some crazy dream
But I feel drawn towards the evil chanting hordes
They seem to mesmerise me...can’t avoid their eyes
666 the number of the beast
666 the one for you and me

I’m coming back I will return
And I’ll possess your body and I’ll make you burn
I have the fire I have the force
I have the power to make my evil take it’s course

Oh, this wasn't an Iron Maiden thread?

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Just want to gain insight on the overall attitude of most on here.

by stillAwitness in

i am on here a lot.

leafing through posts, taking the time out to read individuals' profiles, their topics.

i like to gain insight, get perspective on what it is like to be "on the other side" i guess you can say.

riverofdeceit

The first twenty years of my life were controlled by the "society". Half of my blood relatives (of course the ones I was closest to) are trapped in the lies of this institution. I hate the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses. That is my attitude toward this religion. I got myself reinstated 3/4 years ago so I could more freely associate with my mother, who recently died of cancer. Of course my JW relatives were there often to visit as well (so were the non JW relatives just so you dont think that the concern for her was just a jw love kinda thing) so I didn't want to have to deal with that weird vibe when they were around. So my attitude toward the JW religion is that I hate it and I will rejoice when it is exposed. My attitude on life is that I love it, I love having one, I love my wife and child, and I am happy with myself.

The worst part of having been raised as a witness was that: had I not been, I would never have been sucked in by them. I never had a choice. But.... I questioned when I was able to. My mother always said I was "too critical". To see here though, the power that this "organization" can have over others, infuriates me even more. I have relatives that are much more intelligent than I am in many respects but still cannot see the forest. The research that has been done by everyone here is so overwhelming, that in this day and age, that people are still being sucked in by them, is ridiculous. I am new to posting here, and none of what I can tell you would compare to what the true (ex)-believers here who had to find proof that the JW's were lying to them in order to leave can tell you. I am grateful for everyone here "fighting the fine fight" though. I am not a confrontational person but I do root for the good guys. Also, while I lean toward the atheistic, agnostic folks ideas, I have nothing against truly compassionate people who happen to believe in a god of some sort. (just don't come to my door telling me that jesus loves me and I have to call myself a sinner in order for him to save me - dying for three days isn't a big deal in my book. Any day I get to sleep for more that 8 hours is a blessing, not a sacrifice.)