What's so bad about Satan?

by robhic 60 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • robhic
    robhic

    Why is satan supposed to be so bad? What did he actually do? He gets the blame, sure, but what does he explicitly do? Can’t explain why you did something bad? Blame the devil. An excuse.

    He tempted Adam & Eve by telling them the truth! If they ate from the tree they would be the equal of god. Is this true? They ate from the tree. God got pissed and threw them out. (Now, did they possess the same knowledge, attributes, etc. that god had? I don’t know that part, it’s all about them getting tossed from the garden. But I digress.)

    If they did have all god’s attributes, why could he so handily bounce them from the garden? Why didn’t they fight back? There were two of them. In any case, god said if and when they ate from the tree they would die. But they lived another 900 or so years. So who lied? Not satan...

    And the bit about tempting jesus. So what? He tempted him, jesus declined the offer, no-harm-no foul as far as I can see. What does satan actually do that makes him so bad?

    Tell folks to slaughter women and children (but keeping the more attractive women for wives)? Destroy whole towns or civilizations? Kill 70,000 people because some guy took a census and a myriad of other nasty things? No, it was god (the one who supposedly loves everyone) doing this! Not satan...

    God does all the reprehensible things but satan gets blamed for stuff only because he seems to be a handy scape goat the way I see it. Gotta have someone or somewhere to place blame. It seems satan is just a convenient excuse for taking responsibility oneself. And just for trying to make people more aware that the being they worship is an egomaniacal, self-focused, jealous, petty, vicious, capricious, mysoginistic, racist who insists that you base your whole life, without question, on his rules exclusively or he’ll kill you. Some choice. One lies yet says it is impossible for him to do so and one doesn’t lie but is called the "Father of the Lie." Say what?

  • lucifer
    lucifer

    you make an interesting point, God was the one who "ordered "alot of the killing...interesting never thought of it like that before

  • garybuss
    garybuss

    I like the character Satan much better than the character God. Who'd Satan ever murder?

  • daystar
    daystar

    robhic

    He tempted Adam & Eve by telling them the truth! If they ate from the tree they would be the equal of god. Is this true? They ate from the tree. God got pissed and threw them out.

    That's not what he said. He told them if they ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Bad, they would be like God in knowing good or bad for themselves rather than having to be told by God what is to be judged good and what is to be judged bad. Also, by the way, they also would not die. Hmm, sort of a lie there.

  • bikerchic
    bikerchic

    LOL

    I like the character Satan much better than the character God. Who'd Satan ever murder?

    Oh yeah good one Gary!

    Y'all must believe in Santa Clause, Tinkerbell and the Tooth Fairy too..........

  • Narkissos
  • kid-A
    kid-A

    Many more people have been slaughtered in the name of god (be it allah or jehovah or jesus) then have been in the name of satan. Satan merely questioned why god deserved all the worship....good question Lucifer! I wouldnt want to serve anybody that insecure either!!

    More importantly, even if you accept the whole concept that the devil causes the evil in the world, it is god who stands by and does nothing to stop him.

  • robhic
    robhic
    Adam said, "The woman that you gave me, she gave to me and I ate." And the arrogant ruler cursed the woman.

    Nark:

    OK, so you had to overshadow my opinionated post with real scholarship! But the excerpt above just re-iterates the "blame the other guy" philosophy that seems, again in my opinion, to be the reason for satan's being. You can't have "good" unless you have "bad" to contrast it with. Presto! Satan is the result.

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    robhic,

    Agreed. Reversed dualism, dualism nonetheless.

  • candysearching
    candysearching

    In any case, god said if and when they ate from the tree they would die. But they lived another 900or so years. So who lied? Not satan...

    Well, that depends on the way you look at it…

    Could it be that when God created Adam and Eve he intended for them to live forever? If you look at it that way, then God did not lie, since Adam and Eve did die. Not right away, but eventually they did.

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