in a speech that is considered one of the most personal given by the president, or any past president, president obama speaks about treyvon martin being him 35 years agoand- violence, prejudice, the reach and limits of the states and the federal government, and the soul searching to follow.
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he, the president, invokes martin luther king's- 'the content of character' quote to spark a healthy debate in this country.. www.cnn.com.
My angle is that there has been a remarkable emphasis, in these threads, on satisfaction (that justice has been done) based upon the conclusion of the trial and a rendered verdict.
So, I question: does such satisfaction with a legally final verdict hold true across the board, for all adjudicated criminal cases?
Or is this one special?
in a speech that is considered one of the most personal given by the president, or any past president, president obama speaks about treyvon martin being him 35 years agoand- violence, prejudice, the reach and limits of the states and the federal government, and the soul searching to follow.
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he, the president, invokes martin luther king's- 'the content of character' quote to spark a healthy debate in this country.. www.cnn.com.
You are kidding. I hope you do not think that the Till trial was anything resembling true justice.
Clever one, you!
in a speech that is considered one of the most personal given by the president, or any past president, president obama speaks about treyvon martin being him 35 years agoand- violence, prejudice, the reach and limits of the states and the federal government, and the soul searching to follow.
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he, the president, invokes martin luther king's- 'the content of character' quote to spark a healthy debate in this country.. www.cnn.com.
While I do not draw a comparison between Emmett Till and Trayvon Martin, it bears remembering that Till's aggressors were also found not responsible (not guilty) by a court of law and a jury of their peers.
Are all judicial decisions to be held in reverence and unassailable esteem?
is watchtower baiting apostates with this new awake?.
"is protest the answer?".
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201307/is-protest-the-answer/.
the norwegian branch, as well as the swedish one, are now up for sale and the scandinavian headquarters will be located at the present danish bethel.. http://www.oblad.no/nyheter/omradet-i-ytre-enebakk-legges-ut-for-salg-1.7365526.
this news even made it to the national radio news yesterday.. .
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I forgot to include (above) that the police complaint against the organisation (Norwegian branch office of JW) was filed by Roar Henriksen.
Henriksen is a former Jehovah's Witness, and author of a book on JWs, entitled "God lives in Brooklyn" (Gud bor i Brooklyn, 2004).
the norwegian branch, as well as the swedish one, are now up for sale and the scandinavian headquarters will be located at the present danish bethel.. http://www.oblad.no/nyheter/omradet-i-ytre-enebakk-legges-ut-for-salg-1.7365526.
this news even made it to the national radio news yesterday.. .
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vivalavida: Can someone from Norway update on this? Was the branch sold?
According to online news on ØB.no (here: http://www.oblad.no/nyheter/mener-jehovas-vitners-tekster-kan-fore-til-tragedie-1.7934992), the administration has moved to Denmark, but some limited activities continue at the Norwegian site. So, no sale yet.
The article's theme, however is that the JW organisation in Norway (represented by the branch office) was last month (June 2013) reported to the police for investigation, on the grounds of "racisim, hate speech, and inciting to the murder of defectors"- in contravention of the Penal Code. The bases for the charge are texts in the Watchtower, during the period 1952-2011.
[For those who use a Google English translation, "reviewed" should actually read "reported" (as in to lodge a formal complaint with the police).]
This whole thing about race is ridiculous. Zimmerman was a latino. One minority against another? That is not what racism is.
But the blacks don't even learn a lesson from this. If their race is not to be profiled, why are they out with hoodies and protesting and causing problems?
I don't have a problem with blacks. Saw many of them at the District convention. If Trayvon was at the DC or meetings or in field service or in family worship, he would never have had this problem. Worldly Blacks have always had an image problem, which is why Bill Cosby has said the things he said about them.
You make "them" sound otherworldly. Why should you have a problem with "them"? "They" are neither a horde of mosqitoes, nor shingles - so what are they to you, or you to them? They are just individuals. Aren't you an individual, or do you also identify yourself as merely a pixel in a hue on a color wheel?
church officials hushed up a child sex scandal in their ranks and refused to co-operate with police.. .
jehovah witness ministerial servant gordon leighton admitted sexually abusing a child when he was confronted by his church elders, a court heard.. but during the official police investigation, the 53-year-old who made headlines in the 1990s when wife yvonne, 28, died after refusing a blood transfusion after childbirth on religious grounds denied any illegal wrongdoing.. and when detectives asked elders simon preyser, harry logan and david scott to make statements about the confession, all three refused and said what they had heard was confidential.. for three years, the elders refused to co-operate with the criminal investigation and kept up that stance when the case was brought before newcastle crown court after the victim made a complaint to police.. each was issued with a witness summons which they fought to overturn before being ordered to testify by judge penny moreland citing public interest.. their barrister richard daniels said the men had a duty to god not to breach confidence.. he added: privileged communication between members of the congregation and ministers is an absolute right and duty and there is no power in law to breach such a confidence.. judge moreland said: it is apparent that the three elders who were present when this conversation took place are in possession of relevant evidence as to a point which is of real significance in this case.. they claim the right of confidentiality, they claim that what they heard said by the defendant during the course of that meeting ought to be subject to privilege, as ministers of religion.. judge moreland refused to withdraw the summonses and said: public interest is clearly in favour of this evidence being given.. what was said by the defendant on that occasion is of great significance in the trial.. despite the judges ruling, the men still refused to make statements to police until just hours before they were called before the jury.. leighton, who has since been expelled from the church at lambton kingdom hall in washington, denied two charges of indecency with a child and seven of indecent assault.. he was yesterday found guilty of two charges of indecency with a child and six of indecent assault.
he was found not guilty of one indecent assault charge, on the direction of the judge.. he was remanded in custody until he is sentenced next month but warned he is facing a lengthy spell behind bars.. prosecutor katherine dunn told the court the victim, who is now an adult, broke her silence in 2009.. the court heard how at a special church meeting, leighton admitted sexual abuse and made excuses for his behaviour.. miss dunn said: the elders conducted their own investigation.
What heartless incalcitrance!
They are hardenening their necks, to support a great millstone pendant...
No...so tired.. sammieswife
Quite right, too. Maybe it's time to get off of the wheel.
@Sammieswife: so defensive.
I stated nothing but the facts:
- the source of your information
- the source of my information
- my choice
Anything else is your own projection. Into a mirror.
