Yeah, it will be like cancelling the home book study. When I first told the JWs I knew, they were so disappointed and bewildered. Then, when they got the party line - they drank their lemonade and parrotted the WTS reasoning.
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Very Curious, what kind of feedback are you getting from ACTIVE Jehovah's Witnesses on Candace's California Court Victory ?
by Balaamsass ini am stunned by candace's huge court victory.
it is overdue.
i have been reading comments on jvn, huffington, san jose mercury, nbc, and other sources.
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Very Curious, what kind of feedback are you getting from ACTIVE Jehovah's Witnesses on Candace's California Court Victory ?
by Balaamsass ini am stunned by candace's huge court victory.
it is overdue.
i have been reading comments on jvn, huffington, san jose mercury, nbc, and other sources.
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Nothing. Not a peep. E-mailed it two days ago - to JWs, and JW apologists, and NOTHING. Not even from someone who I KNOW does NOT like the JWs. NOTHING.
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The Bombshell Memo
by Celestial inhttp://wcfcourier.com/news/national/calif-jury-awards-m-in-jehovah-s-sex-abuse-case/article_e0667684-7053-573c-a597-fec48ae78bfd.html.
"conti also claimed in her suit that the religion's national leaders formed a policy in 1989 that instructed the religion's elders to keep child sex abuse accusations secret.
congregation elders followed that policy when kendrick was convicted in 1994 of misdemeanor child molestation in alameda county, according to simons.".
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Our Families
Jehovah’s Witnesses and Child ProtectionAlso in Spanish
Child abuse is abhorrent to us. This is in harmony with the Bible principle recorded at Romans 12:9 . Even one abused child is one too many. For decades The Watchtower and Awake! have featured articles to educate both Witnesses and the public regarding the importance and the need to protect children from child abuse. Among others, there were the articles “Let Us Abhor What Is Wicked!” published in the January 1, 1997, issue of The Watchtower; “Help for the Victims of Incest,” in the October 1, 1983, Watchtower; “Your Child Is in Danger!” “How Can We Protect Our Children?” and “Prevention in the Home”, all in the October 8, 1993, Awake!, as well as “Child Molesting—Every Mother’s Nightmare,” in the January 22, 1985, Awake!
When any one of Jehovah’s Witnesses is accused of an act of child abuse, the local congregation elders are expected to investigate. Two elders meet separately with the accused and the accuser to see what each says on the matter. If the accused denies the charge, the two elders may arrange for him and the victim to restate their position in each other’s presence, with elders also there. If during that meeting the accused still denies the charges and there are no others who can substantiate them, the elders cannot take action within the congregation at that time. Why not? As a Bible-based organization, we must adhere to what the Scriptures say, namely, “No single witness should rise up against a man respecting any error or any sin . . . At the mouth of two witnesses or at the mouth of three witnesses the matter should stand good.” ( Deuteronomy 19:15 ) Jesus reaffirmed this principle as recorded at Matthew 18:15-17 . However, if two persons are witnesses to separate incidents of the same kind of wrongdoing, their testimony may be deemed sufficient to take action.
However, even if the elders cannot take congregational action, they are expected to report the allegation to the branch office of Jehovah's Witnesses in their country, if local privacy laws permit. In addition to making a report to the branch office, the elders may be required by law to report even uncorroborated or unsubstantiated allegations to the authorities. If so, the elders receive proper legal direction to ensure that they comply with the law. Additionally, the victim or anyone else who has knowledge of the allegation may wish to report the matter to the authorities, and it is his or her absolute right to do so.
If, when confronted, the accused confesses that he is guilty of child abuse, the elders take appropriate congregational action. If he is not repentant, he will not be permitted to remain a member of the congregation. Even if he is repentant—is cut to the heart and is thus resolutely determined to avoid such conduct in the future—what was stated in the January 1, 1997, issue of The Watchtower applies. The article said: “For the protection of our children, a man known to have been a child molester does not qualify for a responsible position in the congregation. Moreover, he cannot be a pioneer [full-time missionary of Jehovah’s Witnesses] or serve in any other special, full-time service.” He would not qualify Scripturally. ( 1 Timothy 3:2 , 7-10 ) We take such action because we are concerned with maintaining Bible standards and protecting our children. Everyone in our organization is expected to meet the same requirements, namely, to be clean physically, mentally, morally, and spiritually.— 2 Corinthians 7:1 ; Ephesians 4:17-19 ; 1 Thessalonians 2:4 .
In a few instances, individuals guilty of an act of child abuse have been appointed to positions within the congregation if their conduct has been otherwise exemplary for decades. All the factors are considered carefully. Suppose, for example, that a long time ago an 18-year-old male had sexual relations with a 15-year-old girl who was a willing participant. Depending upon the U.S. jurisdiction where he lived when this happened, elders may have been required to report this as an incident of child abuse. Let us say that 20 years have passed. He has been living an exemplary life and he is respected. In such a case, the man could possibly be appointed to a responsible position within the congregation.
Our procedures have been refined over time. Over the years, as we have noted areas where our policies could be strengthened, we have followed through. We are continuing to refine them. We do not believe that our system is perfect. No human organization is perfect. But we do believe that we have a strong, Bible-based policy on child abuse. Anyone in a responsible position who is guilty of child abuse would be removed from his responsibilities without hesitation. We certainly would not knowingly allow him to serve elsewhere, either because he moved or through a transfer. Further, we regularly review our procedures to ensure that they are in compliance with the law.— Romans 13:1 .
The Bible teaches that individuals can repent of their sins and “turn to God by doing works that befit repentance,” and we accept what the Bible says. ( Acts 26:20 ) Still, the safety of our children is of the utmost importance. We take it very seriously.
Copyright © 2010 Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania. All rights reserved.
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The Bombshell Memo
by Celestial inhttp://wcfcourier.com/news/national/calif-jury-awards-m-in-jehovah-s-sex-abuse-case/article_e0667684-7053-573c-a597-fec48ae78bfd.html.
"conti also claimed in her suit that the religion's national leaders formed a policy in 1989 that instructed the religion's elders to keep child sex abuse accusations secret.
congregation elders followed that policy when kendrick was convicted in 1994 of misdemeanor child molestation in alameda county, according to simons.".
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OK, Blondie - go to work on the above post from the WTS
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Understanding the Watch Tower's Claims about Child Abuse
by jamiebowers inthe watch tower released a statement after the 2007 lawsuit settlement.
it's found here:.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/jehovah%27s_witnesses%27_handling_of_child_sex_abuse.
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Look at how the WTS is trying to spin this:
have taken."Kim McCabe, an attorney for the congregation, said he was very disappointed with the verdict and plans appeal it.
"The Jehovah's Witnesses hate child abuse and believe it's a plague on humanity," McCabe said. "Jonathan Kendrick was not a leader or a pastor, he was just a rank-and-file member. This is a tragic case where a member of a religious group has brought liability on the group for actionshe alone ma y (really, "alone" well, there was a policy in place that HELPED him keep his sins in secret in this closed community. "May" - oh, you are denying he did these things. Guess that is true that he couldn't have done it since there were not TWO witnesses)
Conti, now 26, was repeatedly molested by Kendrick from 1995-96, when she was 9 and 10 years old and a member of the North Fremont Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses, Simons said.
The lawsuit claims Watchtower formed a policy in 1989 that instructed the religion's elders to keep child sex abuse accusations secret. The North Fremont congregation elders followed that policy when Kendrick was convicted in 1994 of misdemeanor child molestation in Alameda County, Simons said.
"That abuse case had been reported to the elders," he said. "But they kept it secret and didn't do anything to stop him from molesting more kids."
Kendrick, a registered sex offender, was convicted in 2004 of molesting another girl in Contra Costa County, Simons said.
"That policy is still in place and it was a secret until, through the power of the court, it was put into evidence," he said. "That policy was what this case was all about."
Criminal charges have not been filed against Kendrick in the Conti case, but Simons said authorities are investigating. Sources confirmed the investigation but declined to comment further.
McCabe said there is a lot of dispute regarding the plaintiff's accusations. (ah, deny, deny, deny defense. See two witness rule. How dare a sister accuse a fine brother of sexual abuse)
"But if she was, in fact, (This makes this media man look like a complete BOOB, again, he is denying it even AFTER the jury hear evidence) abused then we feel horrible, and hope she can make a full recovery and lead a normal life," he said.
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Call Your Local News Tip Lines!
by mind blown ini hadn't heard back from my friends, friends, who work for the news media (i'm impatient) so i called three major news tip lines and actually was able to speak to someone!
i urge you to do the same if you can.
i gave them the case number, location and award amount paid to a single person.
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Call Your Local News Tip Lines!
by mind blown ini hadn't heard back from my friends, friends, who work for the news media (i'm impatient) so i called three major news tip lines and actually was able to speak to someone!
i urge you to do the same if you can.
i gave them the case number, location and award amount paid to a single person.
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I went to Fox News and sent an e-mail. Let's all do it!
If you have a news comment, story correction, or news tip, there are a couple ways to contact us:
- Email: Send a message to [email protected]
- Twitter: "Tweet" at our main @foxnews account
If you have pictures or video of news happening where you are, you can also send it to us via uReport (we might feature it!).
Perhaps Bill O'Reily can also give shoutout to Sparlock. Pinhead or Patriot? Sparlock the Patriot!
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Watchtower sends Cease and Desist order on SPARLOCK items!
by sacolton injust got notice that all sparlock t-shirts, cups, bags, etc.
will be pulled from my shop.
watchtower corp. has filed a complaint to cafepress on all sparlock items.
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How about a new line of "Candice Conti"? Will she let you use her name?
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Watchtower sends Cease and Desist order on SPARLOCK items!
by sacolton injust got notice that all sparlock t-shirts, cups, bags, etc.
will be pulled from my shop.
watchtower corp. has filed a complaint to cafepress on all sparlock items.
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That's proof they monitor this site.
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How does a congregation handle being found guilty in a lawsuit?
by OnTheWayOut inas in the current oakland, california case, since the congregation must vote on expenditures and pay on such rulings, is there any announcement concerning the specific case and rulings?
are the elders removed to make it look like it was their blunder.
any real info along with wild speculations would be welcome..
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How do congregationS handle this news? Who is going to the meeting on Sunday. Wonder if it will be like when the 20/20 pedophile report first broke, and the elders told everyone to not watch it. The women in my family stayed home (feined sickness) to watch. They knew enough JW pedophiles, and it truly sickened them as they knew the WTS was wrong on this one.