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  No Child Left Behind Testing

  by skeeter1 in

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  around the us, 6th graders (and alot of other grades) are preparing for this spring's standardized testing.

  when "we" grew up, the standardized tests were straigh forward math problems.

  the standardized math test is now only 16 questions long, but they are all long, drawn out word problems.

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  The question was from a STANDARDIZED test. It is to be applied to all children; slow, regular, and advanced groups. It's only 16 questions; but all the 16 questions are multi-stepped, deductive questions. That's great to test which of the children should be in the 10% advanced group; but it does little to assess where the other 90% are at.

  This is like the mental version of the President's physical fitness challenge. Only a small percent can get that award. But, this math standardized test, they all must pass.

  Montessori parents must have alot of money and work alot with their childen. Is that why my child can't do this test? She went to Montessori when she was younger. Oh, and I have alot of money. And, I work with her all the time. She's done tutoring, and the Kahn Academy. So, why can't she do this test? Because this test is too advanced for her brain at this time.

  Just because your parents are super, upper middle class, and work their brains out independently with the kid, hire tutors, etc . . . .doesn't automatically make the kid an exceptional honor student. There is a limitation on learning development, IQ, brain maturity rates, etc.

  You all are a bunch of snobs.

  Skeeter
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  No Child Left Behind Testing

  by skeeter1 in

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  around the us, 6th graders (and alot of other grades) are preparing for this spring's standardized testing.

  when "we" grew up, the standardized tests were straigh forward math problems.

  the standardized math test is now only 16 questions long, but they are all long, drawn out word problems.

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  No, my child can NOT do this test. I work with her all the time. It's too advanced for her at this age. I think in a few years, she'll be able to see it. But, not right now. Different brains mature at different times. It's not that she's stupid, but it's not going to work. If I ask her to do a part of this problem, she can do it. But, she can't see it all together and figure out all the needed steps.

  In fact, her teachers pretty much HATE this test. There's too many traps for the kids to fail it. It would be different if it tested one item at a time. But, it doesn't. It's everything in just 16 problems.

  My daughter is sitting here, and she thinks you need to teach elementary school children to understand them.

  I think that the reason the freshman and sophmores are failing is becuase they learned to say, "I hate math."
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  No Child Left Behind Testing

  by skeeter1 in

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  2. family

  around the us, 6th graders (and alot of other grades) are preparing for this spring's standardized testing.

  when "we" grew up, the standardized tests were straigh forward math problems.

  the standardized math test is now only 16 questions long, but they are all long, drawn out word problems.

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  Deductive reasoning is over the heads of elementary school children. Work with them. They are straight forward, objective reasoners. Yes, there are going to be a few gifted kids that can do this at an early age . . . but this is not standardized test material.

  This ojbective/deductive reasoning is part of why the JW kids accept the Truth as given to them when they are 12 years old. But, as their mind matures into being able to turn ideas (and objects) around in their minds, then they reject the Truth as their brain grows into adulthood. Barbara Anderson was once telling me something about this growth of the human brain; and how it affected a child's/young adults reasoning ability to stand up to abusers.

  Skeeter
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  No Child Left Behind Testing

  by skeeter1 in

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  around the us, 6th graders (and alot of other grades) are preparing for this spring's standardized testing.

  when "we" grew up, the standardized tests were straigh forward math problems.

  the standardized math test is now only 16 questions long, but they are all long, drawn out word problems.

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  Kudra,

  I think it's too hard for 6th grader.

  It's finding out the area of a rectangle, base time height.

  32 * 40 = 1280

  Then, subtracting the rectangle's area from the total area of the trapezoid to find out the area of a triangle.

  1440-1280=160

  Then, you have to know the formula for the area of a triangle = 1/2 * base * height. This gives you the base of the triangle.

  160=1/2*b*32

  160=16b

  10=b (of triangle)

  Then, add that base to the base of the rectangle (i.e. 40). T

  10+40= 50

  50 is the legnth of the longest side of the trapezoid.

  This is ALOT of steps; and alot of kids are going to naturally fail it. THey will be labelled as ADHD and put on meds.

  My 6th grader thinks the FCAT is cruel and mental child abuse for learning. You learned pieces and parts of this problem in daily school, but not the whole thing together in this many steps. They are trying to make the kids fail. It's like the Hunger Games - where only 1 kid lives.

  Skeeter
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  No Child Left Behind Testing

  by skeeter1 in

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  around the us, 6th graders (and alot of other grades) are preparing for this spring's standardized testing.

  when "we" grew up, the standardized tests were straigh forward math problems.

  the standardized math test is now only 16 questions long, but they are all long, drawn out word problems.

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  Around the US, 6th graders (and alot of other grades) are preparing for this Spring's standardized testing.

  When "we" grew up, the standardized tests were straigh forward math problems. I remember addition questions . . . .like 235+156=? Or fractions like 2/3 + 7/21 = ? At the very end, there were a few word problems. That was appropriate for the 6th grade.

  Today, this new testing is absolutely NUTS. It's all deductive reasoning with alot of different math subject areas thrown into one question. I bet you alot of you would not be able to figure this S*** out. Each question is long and drawn out word problems.

  Here is one example (they are all THIS hard). #5 on Florida' sample math FCAT for the 6th grade.

  "Tim's workbench is in the shape of a trapezoid. A drawing of his workbench with some dimensions is shown below.

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  | 32 inches /

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  40 inches

  If the area of Tim's trapezoidal workbench has a total of 1,440 square inches, what is the total length, in inches, of the longest side of his workbench?"

  If you want to see more of this lunacy, go here: http://fcat.fldoe.org/fcat2/pdf/sample/1112/math/FL530625_Gr6_Math_TB_WT_r3g.pdf I bet almost all of us on this board could not pass this "standard" test.

  The standardized math test is now only 16 questions long, but they are all long, drawn out word problems. Where the student has multiple subject areas thrown to them at one time, and deductive reasoning that most college aged kids couldn't do. The teachers are "evaluated" on how well their students perform on these unsustainable tests. The children are super stressed out over the tests becuase if they don't pass them, they might not go to the next grade. Do you see what is wrong with our education system?

  These new standardized tests are great tests if your kid is a gifted student. But, for the average bear it is unsustainable. Remember back to the 6th grade, and what you knew & didn't know in math. Would you have been able to pass this test? And, if you didn't would it have demoralized you to believing that you couldn't do math? I think it would have done that to me. In college, I went all the way through calculus and beyond - making alot of A's. I tutored students and know, for a fact, that the college students of the 80s didn't have this level of thinking that we expect from every 6th grader across the country.

  Skeeter
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  What is your religious belief now?

  by jwfacts in

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  i have a new poll at jwfacts.mobi/pollsarchive/ as i am very interested to see what people have moved on to believe.

  as this is considered sensitive by some, you can answer anonymously at the jwfacts.mobi/pollsarchive/, or answer on this thread.

  this is what i have created in the list, but feel free to add comments, corrections, or options i have missed.. .

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  Agnostic. Appreciate Buddha.

  Watch the documentary Religulous. That sums it up for me.
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  What kind of laundry detergent do you use?

  by Iamallcool in

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  Pods are a mess where I live. They totally stick together. Dishwasher ones too. Just plain liquid.
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  Books that make you go hmm....

  by jgnat in

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  it's occurred to me that i have been reshaped by the books i have read, taking my new knowledge for granted, and forgetting that those around me have not been on the same journey.

  as a consequence sparks fly, as iron sharpening iron, as we strive to understand each other (or to insist that we are not the same).

  there are a few books that stand out, as i refer to them over and over again.

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  marking.

  I'd have to say that i really enjoyed a book, "Into Thin Air"

  Currently reading a really good book. Not sure it's what you all would like to read. But, it's great.

  Blood and Thunder: The Epic Story of Kit Carson and the Conquest of the American West [Paperback]

  In the summer of 1846, the Army of the West marched through Santa Fe, en route to invade and occupy the Western territories claimed by Mexico. Fueled by the new ideology of “Manifest Destiny,” this land grab would lead to a decades-long battle between the United States and the Navajos, the fiercely resistant rulers of a huge swath of mountainous desert wilderness.In Blood and Thunder , Hampton Sides gives us a magnificent history of the American conquest of the West. At the center of this sweeping tale is Kit Carson, the trapper, scout, and soldier whose adventures made him a legend. Sides shows us how this illiterate mountain man understood and respected the Western tribes better than any other American, yet willingly followed orders that would ultimately devastate the Navajo nation. Rich in detail and spanning more than three decades, this is an essential addition to our understanding of how the West was really won.
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  What kind of laundry detergent do you use?

  by Iamallcool in

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  Tide or Kirkland.
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  Do Witnesses really want to go to the meetings?

  by BU2B in

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  do witnesses really want to go to the meetings?

  or do they just go because they feel they must to get into the new world.

  or is it just peer pressure or pressure of elders?

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  I dreaded the meeting. Went because of peer pressure. Didn't want to be confronted with, "I missed you?" And, that line was, "I'll feel better afterwards" kept me going. But, I didn't feel better becuase of the meeting, I felt good that it was OVER and I was FREE.