Hey, I've got into tivoing Dr. Phil. He does this type of interviews. No yelling, gets the people to be truly interspective, and they discover the answers for themselves. It's admirable.
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How to influence those under psychological coercion
by paranoia agent inhi, i am completing a degree in psychology, while doing so a subject on social psychology has some interesting subjects on persuasion and change techniques.
so while not all circumstances are different doing so in this manner is the most efficient way:.
1. do not allow the argument to become heated, studies have showed that people tend to use less of the left side of the brain (left side is where all rational and logical cognitions take place, right hemisphere of the brain is all emotion).. 2. don't be a hypocrite, if they get angry and upset they subconsciently expect you to do the same to prove themselves that what they are doing is correct, speak calmly with a monotone voice and try to calm the other person down.. 3. build rapport, rapport can only come from genuine empathy so do not pretend or they will see right through you.
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WATCHTOWER IN A PANIC!
by JW GoneBad injws are in need of more kingdom halls in many major u.s. cities.
at this years agm where it is expected that most of the faithful will be able to listen to the meeting (being tied in by video), dont be surprised if the wts 8 gb members take part in a symposium delivering some long winded appeal, petition, plea, proposal, proposition, solicitation or otherwise hit-on the masses for $$$ in order to lighten the burden and overuse that many kingdom halls are experiencing.
an acquaintance from the west coast mentioned to me that in late august thru early september of this year that a number of pow-wows involving close to 5,000 elders from numerous areas (riverside, los angeles, ventura and orange counties) took place to drum up financial support from the 800+ (not sure) congregations in those areas.
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That letter is to help for insurance. $8 a person/year. Doesn't seem like much, until you do the math. $8 * how many million JWS, is alot of dough.
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Religioulous
by snare&racket innot sure how many here have watched this... but make a coffee and make the time to do so.... its edutainment ;) .
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http://youtu.be/e2zhldbmfdg.
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Remember that Jewish company that made devices to help one cheat on the Sabbath! That was awesome. Fill a need capitalism at its finest.
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WT November 15, 2013 on jw.org
by Gayle inhow can we maintain.
a waiting attitude?
article,,just to wait and wait and wait.
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" In psychological terms, the Watchtower is "innoculating" readers against questioning its authority. The chief " compound" in its anti-venom is Fear - guaranteed to increase the likelihood of even the more intelligent members giving voice to any doubt - they will probably wake up to this quackery, but sadly for many it will be after most of their lives have already been wasted living in fear of doubt. "
Ditto to what Steve wrote.
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Went to Clearwater Florida - Home Base for Scientologists
by skeeter1 inbusiness had me in clearwater, florida a few days ago.
never been, but heard it was mecca for scientologists.
as i was near this beautiful, old hotel .
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From what I saw, the construction crews were revamping old buildings. So, it's going to become even prettier in the downtown area. That "flipper" movie about the dolphin that lost her tale - she's in Clearwater. They were saying that that acquarium brings in alot of tourist money, and they have another half housed at a civic center in downtown. Have to go there for a visit.
Sarasota Beach has a place with all you can eat pancakes. Grouper for $1.00, WOW!
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More fear and paranoia WT-style! (11/15/13 WT)
by LostGeneration ini usually dismiss the "drinking the kool aid" scenarios that are posted from time to time, but the latest wt has another bit of fearmongering.
the quote from page 20, para 17. elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered: (1) the most practical step that we can take to prepare for the coming attack of the assyrian is that of strengthening our faith in god and helping our brothers to do the same.
(2) when the assyrian attacks, the elders must be absolutely convinced that jehovah will deliver us.
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That reminded me. Remember that "Hal-Bop" cult that all committed suicide to get to the mother ship on the back side of Haley's Comet? Their leader told the men to castrate themselves. Almost all of them did. One, got out. Didn't make human sense, but mind-controlled people will follow anyone.
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Went to Clearwater Florida - Home Base for Scientologists
by skeeter1 inbusiness had me in clearwater, florida a few days ago.
never been, but heard it was mecca for scientologists.
as i was near this beautiful, old hotel .
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Business had me in Clearwater, Florida a few days ago. Never been, but heard it was mecca for Scientologists. As I was near this beautiful, old hotel . . a group of young people were crossing the street. All had on jeans, white shirts, and carried a red sling-type bag. They were on an eager purpose. While I don't know for certain, they struck me as Scientologiest. They were walking near that hotel. Come to find out, that the hotel is Scientology's mother ship.
Luckily, no Scientologist approached me. I had a plan, if approached. I was going to tell them that I was raised a Jehovah's Witness, and that all those martians are really demons from Satan . . . . and then ask them if they wanted a Bible study.
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Religioulous
by snare&racket innot sure how many here have watched this... but make a coffee and make the time to do so.... its edutainment ;) .
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http://youtu.be/e2zhldbmfdg.
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I watched this a few years ago, and absolutely loved it. The part with the congressman, omg!!! What a baffoon. And, the part at the Jesus Theme Park in Orlando where he interviews a man playing Jesus - priceless!!
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A judge bans a child being called Messiah
by usualusername inbbc news - us judge changes baby's name from messiah to martin.
what right does this judge have to change a babies name?
jerk.
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What about Jesus, that's a common name!
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IQ and Theism
by DJS inrob waugh yahoo!
news .religious people are less intelligent than non-believers, according to a new review of 63 scientific studies stretching back over decades.. .
a team led by miron zuckerman of the university of rochester found a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity in 53 out of 63 studies.
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I find this article to have a ring of truth to it.
When i was in elementary school, I was tested by school psychologists who determined I was gifted. My parents were shown my IQ, but never told me and now, "don't remember" what it was. My parents encouraged me to make great grades, study, and go to college. In fact, both of them went to college after 1975. They were in their 40's. We didn't go to the Kingdom Hall.
So, the time comes for high school. I am in all advanced/ap classes, and bump into a JW on the school bus. She witnesses to me, and I start going back to the Kingdom Hall. Eventually, my mother started coming too. I could read a paragraph and answer the questions presented from the evidence in the paragraph, but I was really just nodding my head.
Then, between the 10th and 11th grade, I went to a convention in Tampa/St. Pete. Had to been 1984. A young woman got on stage and told of the horrors she experienced going to college. She quit college, to go back to Jah and be a full-time pioneer. Everyone applauded. But, I puked. I told my mother that I didn't agree with the Witnesses for putting this girl up on the stage and I didn't agree with what she said. I was for learning. Then, just about the same time, the mother of the school bus girl told me "off" in the Kingdom Hall for taking advanced and ap classes. This was proof that I didn't believe that the "Generation of 1914" would not pass away. So, I told my mother, who said that I was going to college, would have to 'live at home' and to not tell anyone else of my plans.
Then, the 11th grade hit. I had advanced chemistry and trig. We were the geeks of the school. Everyone became very logical and depended on proofs of reality. And, I started to see the WTS was stringing along a bunch of Bible verses. The WTS calculation of 1914 was just "too complicated" for the average man to figure out, so why would Jehovah the True God make it so crazy of a calculation if everyone's life depended on it? So, I started attending less & less. My hours in service hit ZERO. But, my idols became my math and science teachers. I liked them more then my parents, other JWs, everyone.
About the 12th grade, and an elder took me aside to ask if I was serious about the Truth and concerned about my not putting in 10 hours a month in service. I told him that I didn't believe in the WTS calculation of 1914; and that I wanted to go to college. The elder said that college was not a good idea. This elder was a doctor, and I reminded him of that. He then said that he'd have to make an announcement at the next meeting that I was no longer a publisher. I looked him straight in the eye and said, if I remember right, "Well, you do whatever it is that you need to do. It doesn't affect me at all as I have made my decision." This conversation was about 3 minutes. No other elder was there, that I remember. I didn't attend the next meeting. I was also working at a job, and was already scheduled to work.
That school bus girl got married to a JW. Before she unfriended me on Facebook (which was a short 2 hour friendship), she wrote alot about going to the conventions. You know, all that goody-too-shoes bullshit appearance stuff. She wasn't a dumb girl, but in the regular classes.
Of our high school graduating class, I was the only one in the advanced group. The ones in the regular group are still in, I believe. One in a lower grade got out, thankfully. She wasn't in the high performing group, but her life choices made the JWs not fit.
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p.s. While I'm supposedly "gifted", doesn't mean that I am street smart or spell/write the greatest. Here, there is no spell check. And, if the door said "Pull", I'd probably "Push". Send me to the store to buy Coke and I'll return with Diet Pepsi. Get what I mean?
p.s.s. In about 2002, my parents were elderly and tried to reconvert me to JW after the birth of our first child. Know what their opening line was? The WTS now ok's college. I said that was great, but not enough to convince me to go back. Then, they slipped up and said that 1914 was "Old light." To which, I couldn't stop laughing. It was so funny. They were straigh faced, that this "New Light" was going to get me back into the Truth. I laughed and laughed. When I finaly came to, I said something, "But, look at how many lives were hampered? Look at all my friends that didn't go to college becuase they had to believe in 1914. So, now the WTS strings together some new scriptures and I'm supposed to go to it?" So, then my parents sent out sisters, brothers, elders to our door. I politely told the first two groups, "No." The, I had to tell the third group, "Hell NO, Did my parents set you up to do this? Stop. Stop. Stop." They never came back. :-)