I was told by an elderly dub (80) that he might not see it in his lifetime, BUT HE WAS CERTAIN I WOULD SEE IT!!! (He yelled the last part so I capitalized it)
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What is the "new" date JWs are "hinting" at for Armaggeddon?
by booker-t inafter the 1975 "we did not say point blank armaggeddon was coming we only suggested it might come" fiasco what is the new date jws are "hinting" at for armaggeddon?
i know now they do not point to any specific date but hint that maybe it might occur such as before 2000 the preaching work will be finished.
this is a suggestion not a prediction so they can wiggle out of this one.
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37 years later, I finally got the CULT thing
by Freedom77 inhi all, just happened to come across this site again after 10 or 12 years - i see some old posts of mine under a diff username (can't reopen the account, forgot the freakin' password).
i left the borg in 1977, age 21, haven't looked back but every now and then i am amazed to find there's some old, old attitude from the jw days that i find is still clinging to my pants leg like a stray sticker.. looking over some of the posts here and some linked ex-jw sites yesterday it finally hit me - it is an effing cult.
when i was in, we were always accused of being that, so naturally we totally spouted the society's line and got all defensive, etc.
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If you can see reality, then you can change anything. Welcome, to being able to change everything.
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Stuck in JWs are in a toxic relationship
by skeeter1 inare "stuck in" jws in a toxic relationship?
this past two weeks, i've been realizing that a few of my jw relatives are very toxic people (they fit the description below).
i realized that alot of ex-jws who are stuck dealing with jws may also be in a toxic relationship.
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Are "stuck in" JWs in a toxic relationship? I think so.
This past two weeks, I've been realizing that a few of my JW relatives are very toxic people (they fit the description below). I realized that alot of ex-JWs who are stuck dealing with JWs may also be in a toxic relationship. (This may not be news to alot of you, but it was for me). Defining the problem, you can then work towards a solution with how to deal with these people.
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“A hallmark of a toxic interaction is that both people have created a conscious or unconscious story with judgment, fear or blame about the other person and boundaries that were crossed,” Tatsumi said.
Signs You’re Surrounded by a Toxic Person
Gale shared these signs:
- You’re emotionally affected by their drama
- You dread (or fear) being around them
- You’re exhausted or you feel angry while you’re with them or after your interaction
- You feel bad or ashamed about yourself
- You’re stuck in a cycle of trying to rescue, fix or care for them.
Tatsumi shared these additional signs:
- The other person doesn’t respect the word “No” as a complete sentence
- When you’re with them, you feel like you’re “walking on eggshells”
- You ignore your own values
- You emotionally “check out”
- You feel like you’re being controlled, or you’re being overly controlling.
Again, it’s important to explore your own role in the interaction. For instance, how do you compromise your own values or boundaries? Do you lash out because you feel misunderstood or not listened to? Do you withdraw because this is how you react to criticism?
What to Do With Toxic Relationships
Gale offered these suggestions for navigating toxic interactions:
- Tell the person how you feel in an assertive way. Use “I” statements. For example: “When you act/do/say _____, I feel _____. What I need is _______. The reason that I am sharing my feelings and needs with you is_______ (because I love you, I want to build a healthy relationship with you etc.).”
- Set and maintain boundaries.
- Focus on taking care of yourself.
- “Find ways to protect yourself from their unhealthy behaviors.”
- Reflect on the relationship, and consider how you’re caught in an unhealthy cycle of relating to the person. For instance, you might be making excuses for them or trying to fix them.
“If the person’s toxic behavior doesn’t change, or the relationship is just too toxic for you, send them forward in life with love and compassion, and then move forward with your life,” Gale said.
Ending the relationship may be painful, particularly if you have a long history with the person, she said. “Ultimately though, you will have created space for much healthier and far more nourishing relationships in your life.”
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Hello and Thank You!
by Vintagewife ini've been lurking here for about 3 months and decided it was time to register and become active.
i left the organization 17 years ago.
like so many of you, i had endured less than christian behavior from the strong cliches that ran our congregation.
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Vintage, you would be the humble one. Becuase, I would have punched his lights out.
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Hello and Thank You!
by Vintagewife ini've been lurking here for about 3 months and decided it was time to register and become active.
i left the organization 17 years ago.
like so many of you, i had endured less than christian behavior from the strong cliches that ran our congregation.
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Wow & Wow! Yes, there seems to be two types of JWs. The truly humble and the raging bulls.
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"Witness to Murder" an upcoming program on US TV about a JW family will air August 20th...
by AndersonsInfo ini was informed yesterday that a us cable tv channel named investigation discovery will be broadcasting a 7-part series named "deadly devotion.
" one program in the series is "witness to murder" which will air wednesday evening, august 20th, probably at 9 p.m. est.
check the schedule on the internet which lists the date and time of broadcast two-weeks ahead.
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Can't wait to watch it. Thanks for posting this.
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Local Needs 07/08/2014
by piztjw ini don't know whether i should laugh, or run screaming into the night.. tonights "local needs" was titled "are you following 'the slave' "?.
the theme scripture was 1 peter 2: 21. it was applied that by following jesus steps closely we would then be able to keep up with 'the slave'.
now i don't know about others, but if i were to follow one person and that meant to keep up with someone else, it would mean that the person i was following was following the other person.
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I'm not a techno geek. My understanding is that it would be expensive to be able to show the website at someone's door. You are going to need a fast internet data plan on your phone or I-pad. A flip phone isn't going to cut it.
-Apple Phone $500-$600
- Dataplan about +$100/month (or more)
-Ipad $800-900 (more impressive becuase of bigger screen)
In all that's a setback of $1200/year recurring and $1500 of hardware as a one time set up. Phones don't last, batteries don't last. So, now you are going to have to save up for the next phone & pad to come out.
I feel very sorry for the JWs. I don't have a fancy phone and I don't pay for internet on my phone. Why? Because it costs too much. I use my house internet, and that's it.
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God & St. Francis on Lawn Care . . .
by skeeter1 inimagine the conversation the creator might have had with st. francis on the subject of lawns:.
god: hey st. francis, you know all about gardens and nature.
what in the world is going on down there in the midwest?
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Imagine the conversation The Creator might have had with St. Francis on the subject of lawns:
God: Hey St. Francis, you know all about gardens and nature. What in the world is going on down there in the Midwest? What happened to the dandelions, violets, thistle and stuff I started eons ago? I had a perfect "no maintenance" garden plan. Those plants grow in any type of soil, withstand drought and multiply with abandon. The nectar from the long lasting blossoms attracts butterflies, honey bees and flocks of songbirds. I expected to see a vast garden of colors by now. But all I see are these green rectangles.
St. Francis: It's the tribes that settled there, Lord. The Suburbanites. They started calling your flowers "weeds" and went to great lengths to kill them and replace them with grass.
God: Grass? But it's so boring. It's not colorful. It doesn't attract butterflies, birds and bees, only grubs and sod worms. It's temperamental with temperatures. Do these Suburbanites really want all that grass growing there?
St. Francis: Apparently so, Lord. They go to great pains to grow it and keep it green. The begin each spring by fertilizing grass and poisoning any other plant that crops up in the lawn.
God: The spring rains and warm weather probably make grass grow really fast. That must make the Suburbanites happy.
St. Francis: Apparently not, Lord. As soon as it grows a little, they cut it... sometimes twice a week.
God: They cut it? Do they then bail it like hay?
St. Francis: Not exactly, Lord. Most of them rake it up and put it in bags.
God: They bag it? Why? Is it a cash crop? Do they sell it?
St. Francis: No Sir. Just the opposite. They pay to throw it away.
God: Now let me get this straight. They fertilize grass so when it does grow, they cut it off and pay to throw it away?
St. Francis: Yes, Sir.
God: These Suburbanites must be relieved in the summer when we cut back on the rain and turn up the heat. That surely slows the growth and saves them a lot of work.
St. Francis: You are not going to believe this Lord. When the grass stops growing so fast, they drag out hoses and pay more money to water it so they can continue to mow it and pay to get rid of it.
God: What nonsense. At least they kept some of the trees. That was a sheer stroke of genius, if I do say so myself. The trees grow leaves in the spring to provide beauty and shade in the summer. In the autumn they fall to the ground and form a natural blanket to keep moisture in the soil and protect the trees and bushes. Plus, as they rot, the leaves form compost to enhance the soil. It's a natural circle of life.
St. Francis: You better sit down, Lord. The Suburbanites have drawn a new circle. As soon as the leaves fall, they rake them into great piles and pay to have them hauled away.
God: No. What do they do to protect the shrub and tree roots in the winter and to keep the soil moist and loose?
St. Francis: After throwing away the leaves, they go out and buy something which they call mulch. The haul it home and spread it around in place of the leaves.
God: And where do they get this mulch?
St. Francis: They cut down trees and grind them up to make the mulch.
God: Enough. I don't want to think about this anymore. Sister Catherine, you're in charge of the arts. What movie have you scheduled for us tonight?
Sister Catherine: "Dumb and Dumber", Lord. It's a real stupid movie about.....
God: Never mind, I think I just heard the whole story from St. Francis.
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A fawn comes bleating, . . .
by compound complex inat my open screen door, in search of mama.. i come into the living room (from the kitchen), we exchange glances for a moment, and he beats a hasty retreat.
i am not mama.
.. meantime, finches gather 'round the four birdbaths in my garden and splash about and share the latest birdland gossip.. .
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I found a snake in the laundry room once! Yeah, I screamed like a girl!!!
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The hardship of being a gay Jehovahs witness.
by truthwillsetyoufree inplease spare a moment to consider the difiiculties faced by gay jehovahs witnesses.
i was raised and baptised as a very serious jw.
every waking moment of my day was lived for jehovahs and his organization and for nothing else.
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I am so sorry you went through this. I know gay people, and they said they "knew it" in childhood/adolesence. They were just attracted to a teacher/adult/older sibling of the same sex, the same way heterosexual kids had crushes on the opposite sex. Now, a good playment of mine from elementary school is openly gay. I've met her and her girlfriend when they were in town. Another gay friend of mine just got married. My spouse & kids all went to their wedding. We just adore these other two ladies. There's so much wrong in the world, I don't see the deal with denying two homosexual adults the right to marry to cut down on legal bills.
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What did Jesus have to say about homosexuality?
Ann Naffziger Answers:
(CNS photo courtesy Catholic Communication Campaign)
If you were to read all four gospels thoroughly in search of Jesus’ teachings on homosexuality it would be a futile endeavor. Not only would you come to the end of the gospels without finding anything attributed to Jesus on the subject, you wouldn’t even find a single reference to the issue in any context.
In fact, there are only a handful of references to homosexuality in the entire Bible, but they are found in the Old Testament and Paul’s writings. (To put it in perspective, while there are only seven references to homosexuality, there are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of references to economic justice and the laws governing the accumulation and distribution of wealth.)
Jesus’ silence on the subject suggests that an issue which can be controversial and/or fraught with emotion these days was simply not a central issue in his lifetime 2,000 years ago in the land of Palestine. The fact that he didn’t address this issue leaves us all to ponder what he might say were he here today.
