I think that they do. When my hubby and I first got together he had a cat that he had raised since a kitten. She is a spoiled rotten little b*tch and she hated me right off the bat. She clawed up the most expensive purse that I ever bought and she ate my shoes from England. I'm thinking that she was jealous, because she would always sleep with my man, but when I stayed over she got locked out of the room. She would just give me hateful looks (if that makes any sense). It's as if we were competing for his attention (I’m a Leo….). In the end I won (t-hee), when I got preggers with our newest addition she went to live with his mom. I feel bad for her, but glad that she can’t tear up my stuff and leave cat hair ALL over the house.
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If JWs knock on Christmas Day...what will you say?
by diamondblue1974 in.
i always remember jws making a special effort to go out on fs on christmas day...and near me they still do....what will you say to them if they should knock on your door?.
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Howdy Cruznheart, I'm from the Houston area...darn it. It would be interesting to get together with you guys though. I know that my husband would really enjoy it. He loves talking about all this stuff, he asks me questions and I'm like "....duh, I have no idea". Maybe if I had paid more attention at the brain washings I never wouild have left....lmao! No I'm sure that I still would have.
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Sister "I just have to comment all the time" had my thought...
by wanderlustguy ini was thinking about how one of the cult tactics come into play in such a simple action, like commenting at the meetings.
don't know if it was the same everywhere, but at our hall, sometimes the wt study conductor would call on a couple of people in sequence, the first would give thier comment, then brother "i get to carry the microphone" would run over to the other, just for them to say "he, she had my thought".
just that statement "they had my thought" says so much now.
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I remember at one WT study there was a sister who thought that she didn't get called on enough, so she brought one of those rubber finger things that you wear at a football game and put that on to get the conductors attention. It worked and she got called on and then just read the answer out of the magazine. I guess the way to brain wash someone is to just keep repeating the same old crap over and over again.
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If JWs knock on Christmas Day...what will you say?
by diamondblue1974 in.
i always remember jws making a special effort to go out on fs on christmas day...and near me they still do....what will you say to them if they should knock on your door?.
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Well I think that after the first intial shock wore off, I would have them stand out in the cold (that's where I have been for quite a while) under all the christmas lights and decorations, and perhaps just have a little chat. "How's so and so" and "Oh really, that's great" and "Oh yeah, by the way I'm DFed. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year" and door slams. Pretty much every JW that lives around here would know me, I've been to at least 4 diffirent congs since I have lived in this part of TX (thanks to my parents moving around so much) so who knows if thay would know that I was DFed, or is there a news letter that is sent out when someone decides to join the dark side?
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Card of Encouragement From Long-time JW Reeks of Despair
by Seeker4 ini happened to see a card a few minutes ago from a jw i grew up with to another jw that we grew up with.
all of us are in our 50s now, and we've known each other since we were early teens.. the sister who wrote the card has pioneered for decades.
she's married, but decided to never have kids.
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It is very frustrating, I will talk to my mom about their future finance condition. She doesn't work, my dad quit his job that he had for 8yrs (good benefits, great 401k) and now works here and there with my sister, no benefits, no taxes being with held, and no longevity. They have no money (none) stuck back, a mountain of debt and her attitude is "well this ol' world will be gone soon enough, so we don't have to worry about it." I just wanna smack her. I know one thing is that when they are flat broke and my dad is too old to work, they sure as hell aren't living with me. They wouldn't (or couldn't) any way, me being the spawn of satan now... t-hee
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Card of Encouragement From Long-time JW Reeks of Despair
by Seeker4 ini happened to see a card a few minutes ago from a jw i grew up with to another jw that we grew up with.
all of us are in our 50s now, and we've known each other since we were early teens.. the sister who wrote the card has pioneered for decades.
she's married, but decided to never have kids.
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To Rebel or not to Rebel? that is the question!
by freedomlover ini am truly looking for your honesty on this issue...not that i think any of you have been dishonest - i just don't want the sugar coated version of pollyanna lines.. i have spoken about this subject privately with one of you - ;) - and also with my hubby.
however, i'm wondering if i'm in the minority here when i bring this subject up.
being raised a jw i had to be so straight for so long.
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I too wanted to rebel, to enjoy all the things that I wasn't allowed to do. I couldn't wear make-up until I was 15, couldn't talk to any one that wasn't a JW (seriously, even if it was for a group project in school), wasn’t allowed to ever actually speak my mind...blah blah blah. My first rebellious act was a tattoo, but there are many active JW that have them, then I got my tongue pierced and recently I got my nose pierced (hurt like hell!!) I now wear shirts that show off my cleavage (never did that before, it was a big no no) I was at a club every weekend for about 4 mths, I would get drunk and dance...dance my ass off. I never felt freer. I met my husband at a club, well actually through my ex-husbands sister…lol, she brought him with her and I wound up going home with him…ahhhhh good times, good times!
I say do something that you have always wanted to do but you were too afraid of what everyone would think or say, and enjoy it. Don’t let any negative thoughts bring you down.
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WT's Strong Hold on the In-active
by sandy inok, this past friday i organized a meetup for ex-witnesses in my local area.
i invited my brother who was never baptized (was almost baptized at 13 but one of the elders asked him to wait till he studied throught he second book).
after the elder asked him to wait he never attended the meetings again with the exception of memorials and some assemblies.
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It's is crazy the feeling that I get when I am researching into religion. I feel as if I am being the worst person that there is. I am going against all that I was brought up to believe and do. I remember hearing over and over again at the meetings to "pay no attention to apostates, don't even look in their general direction, let all their words go in one ear and out the other". Why is the society so affraid of JW hearing something other than what they are being brainwashed to believe? Are they affraid that everyone will realize that it's a scam and that there is more out there then what is being drilled into their heads. My hubby's grandmother has a book (The 40yr WT slave, I believe) I got it off her book shelf and I was looking through it and I felt that I was committing a major sin, even though I have had nothing to do with JW in about 3yrs. Even just in everyday life, there are thoughts that come up and I'm shocked that I am still influenced by it.
Off subject- I always wondered why at the KH there was never really a place for moms to go with their babies. Now there are more halls that have a seperate room, but not when I had my first son. Also they expect the children to sit still for 2hrs and never make a sound (you get looks when they do fuss)it is amazing that the brainwashing begins at such an early age, and we never knew it until we stepped outside the circle and really looked. -
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I just found this site....THANK GOD!
by confused_101 inok long story short i was baptized at 17 (because i felt pressured into it), and i was df about 2yrs ago i believe (i'm 27 now).
i wasn't at the final meeting, or any meeting about my dfing.
i had an elder call me twice at work and tell me that there was meeting that night.
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Thanks for the warm welcome all! It's nice to be accepted somewhere. My beliefs these days...hmmm, I do believe that there is something bigger than man out there. I don't believe that we just crawled out of the goo and mutated into humans. I believe that we should all live our lives to the best of our ability and be “good” people. I don’t feel that I am a horrible person because I got involved with an “unbeliever”. He is the best thing that has ever happened to me, I thank God that he is in my life.
I was just thinking that it’s funny that the “pure” can’t associate with the DF or unbelievers for fear of being soiled by our/their filth. If they were as secure in their faith as they think then it shouldn’t be a big deal with talking to us/them. The only time that they will talk to us/them is to preach and to convert.
I know what I was brought up to believe, only 144,000 go to heaven and the rest of us live on earth (paradise, after we make it that). My mother-in-law passed away a little over a week ago, she was the sweetest woman that I knew. She was always active in her church, I guess you could say that she was a Christian (I’m not really sure). Her family all believed that she went straight to heaven, and there I am thinking that she is just going to rot in her grave and that is all (that sounds horrible, I know), and that God didn’t hear any of her prayers, the prayers asking for healing and the ones asking for grace and the strength to go through what she had to endure. She died of pancreatic cancer and she died in severe agony. That religious background seems that it will always be in the back of my mind somewhere.
If my parents hadn’t followed their almost non-active parents in this religion who knows what I might have been able to accomplish in my life. I was never able to play in sports, there was no support (unless it was about JW) there was no chance of going to college, no “extra curricular activities”. I couldn’t even call my classmates about a group project.
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I just found this site....THANK GOD!
by confused_101 inok long story short i was baptized at 17 (because i felt pressured into it), and i was df about 2yrs ago i believe (i'm 27 now).
i wasn't at the final meeting, or any meeting about my dfing.
i had an elder call me twice at work and tell me that there was meeting that night.
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OK long story short I was baptized at 17 (because I felt pressured into it), and I was DF about 2yrs ago I believe (I'm 27 now). I wasn't at the final meeting, or any meeting about my DFing. I had an elder call me twice at work and tell me that there was meeting that night. I couldn't leave work so I couldn't go, I didn't really want to go any way and the 3rd time I had a call I was at my mom's house and I had no reception on my cell phone and we were disconnected, no one ever called back after that. It's funny that we were created with "free will" but yet that we really don't have it. If God is such a loving and forgiving God why do you have to worship only in that one way. In the eyes of JW if you even begin to step outside the box then something is wrong with you. My sis has started to try to preach to me lately. I ask her questions and her main answer is "Jehovah wants us to worship him out of love". I asked her if she has done any research on how the religion was started, she spouted off the typical answer... "Charles T. Russell...blah blah blah...." She doesn't seem to realize that it's just another religion that was created by a man, it's just his interpretation of the bible. She said that it's the "holy spirit" that showed him the way to go and what to believe", well the "holy spirit" was most likely a case of bad gas. Sorry that the post is long, I just have so many thoughts and questions running through my head. I guess that I just need to know that I'm not the only one out there that has to put up with the looks (when I see other JWs in public places) or the comments. I haven't seen my grandparents in almost 4yrs, when I finally did my grandpa told me "Don't worry sugar, you can always come back." This came from an abusive alcoholic, like I would listen to anything that he said. ACK! I just want to know what to believe in, I feel like I've been brain washed and now I'm so confused and I don't know what is up and what is down. In need of guidence, confused_101