Thank you all so much! I'll check out that link, VM44!
lynnmelo
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ISO Baptism & Bible on CD
by lynnmelo inhi, folks.
after discovering this site about a week ago and researching some of the information provided by some people on the site, i've pretty much decided not to join the jw's.
i thank those who have provided me with information.
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ISO Baptism & Bible on CD
by lynnmelo inhi, folks.
after discovering this site about a week ago and researching some of the information provided by some people on the site, i've pretty much decided not to join the jw's.
i thank those who have provided me with information.
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lynnmelo
Hi, folks. After discovering this site about a week ago and researching some of the information provided by some people on the site, I've pretty much decided not to join the JW's. I thank those who have provided me with information. I haven't decided to stop attending the KH on Sundays yet, but unless I get some information to refute so many of the things I've read during this past week, I won't ever be a JW. However, I still have strong feelings about the need to be baptized. Yet, I don't want to get baptized by any religion that believes in the trinity (this isn't an invitation for anyone here to try convincing me about the validity of the Trinity, by the way) or that's not conservative. Does anyone have any suggestions?Also, I'd like to buy a Bible on CD or tape that is really accurate (i.e., that includes Jehovah's name where it should be, that doesn't insert words where they shouldn't be, etc.). Any suggestions?
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Okay: Who is Barb & What's the "news"?
by lynnmelo in.
i know no one really knows what the content of the "news" is, but i don't even know what news you guys are waiting for.
i've been reading some posts referencing "barb" and "the news," so i wasn't wondering if someone could give me some background (i've looked a few pages back and can't find anything).. thanks.
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lynnmelo
I really wish people would stop pointing the finger at Confession and telling him what he "should have" done. He admitted (paraphrasing) that he was under the mind control of the Witnesses. It's very easy to sit in the position of now and judge what another person should have done in the past. He was honest enough to reveal what he did here, so give him a break.
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Okay: Who is Barb & What's the "news"?
by lynnmelo in.
i know no one really knows what the content of the "news" is, but i don't even know what news you guys are waiting for.
i've been reading some posts referencing "barb" and "the news," so i wasn't wondering if someone could give me some background (i've looked a few pages back and can't find anything).. thanks.
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lynnmelo
Thank you, Confession, for that information. I am not discounting anything anyone else has said, but I do think it is extremely important to get all sides of an issue. Someone like me who is searching for the truth (this time, I'm referring to the truth about the organization) and who has already been warned about the danger of "apostate" sites would be inclined to discount a lot of what might be true because other facts weren't brought to light (perhaps because they weren't known, which is why I try to be thorough).
That said, Confession, in the personal example you shared, I don't believe that the elders did the right thing by just letting that guy go without reporting it to the police or social services even with the first accusation but definitely not with the second. In my view, they had an obligation not only to protect a particular congregation's children but also to protect other children in that society. So they disfellowshiped him--big deal. He's still a potential child predator who's now on the loose. He should be investigated by the secular authorities at the very least.
Nevertheless, I do agree with your overall point about having the whole story. In that same vein, one thing about the Dateline interview bothered me. Stone Philips asked Bill Bowen something like (I'm paraphrasing), "So, you talking with me is like you talking to Satan?" Bowen answered "Yes." He followed that with something stating the Witnesses's view of the outside world as Satan's world. The latter statement was more representative of what I've learned about the Witnesses, while the former statement was a total oversimplication, IMHO. I don't think that any Witness I know would ever equate speaking to individuals who are non-Witness as speaking with Satan. It's stuff like that that bothers me. I wish people would just stick to the straight facts about something without trying to exaggerate it or filter facts. Again, I'm not applying this statement to anyone who has responded to me here; I'm just agreeing with the point Confession made.
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Okay: Who is Barb & What's the "news"?
by lynnmelo in.
i know no one really knows what the content of the "news" is, but i don't even know what news you guys are waiting for.
i've been reading some posts referencing "barb" and "the news," so i wasn't wondering if someone could give me some background (i've looked a few pages back and can't find anything).. thanks.
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lynnmelo
Thanks, FreeWilly and others. I went on the silentlambs.org site yesterday and viewed the Dateline episode. To say I was appalled is an understatement. I'm sincerely disgusted, sad, and disappointed. I realize that there are two sides to every story, but some things can't be defended: 1) letting a confessed pedophile back out on the streets to witness to other unsuspecting people; 2) Erica Garza's congregation supporting the confessed pedophile instead of her, the victim.
I'd like to know what the Society's current policy on reporting child molesters is. It seems to me that they're treating a child molester in the same manner they might treat someone who, say, was discovered stealing. However, a child molester is a very particular type of criminal. The recidivism rate for child molesters is nearly 100 %. They cannot be trusted. To me, child molesters should have two choices: 1) death penalty or 2) life imprisonment with chemical castration. Even if you were to forgive such an animal, how in the world could you put him out on the street?
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Okay: Who is Barb & What's the "news"?
by lynnmelo in.
i know no one really knows what the content of the "news" is, but i don't even know what news you guys are waiting for.
i've been reading some posts referencing "barb" and "the news," so i wasn't wondering if someone could give me some background (i've looked a few pages back and can't find anything).. thanks.
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lynnmelo
Okay, I get that no one really knows the news, but who's Barb?
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Okay: Who is Barb & What's the "news"?
by lynnmelo in.
i know no one really knows what the content of the "news" is, but i don't even know what news you guys are waiting for.
i've been reading some posts referencing "barb" and "the news," so i wasn't wondering if someone could give me some background (i've looked a few pages back and can't find anything).. thanks.
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lynnmelo
I know no one really knows what the content of the "news" is, but I don't even know what news you guys are waiting for. I've been reading some posts referencing "Barb" and "the news," so I wasn't wondering if someone could give me some background (I've looked a few pages back and can't find anything).
Thanks.
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How Many Came in via Door-toDoor Witnessing?
by JW_Researcher in.
what percentage would you say came into your old or current congregation(s) via the door-to-door witnessing?
it is understood that your response is a guestimate.
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lynnmelo
Apparently they have TV ads in the US now too
Really? I haven't seen any. When/on what channel do they usually run?
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Stupid things JW's say: Todays stupid phrase "young ones"
by Check_Your_Premises inwe all know that cults use loaded language as well as redefine words and phrases to have their own special meaning.. not to long ago i was talking to a very devout jw sister (totally brainwashed just doesn't describe it) about my daughter.
she kept talking about the "young ones".
she must have said the phrase twenty times over the course of the conversation.
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lynnmelo
This is hilarious! My sister and I (both unbaptized) have studied just long enough to notice this. We've noticed that they love using the word "appreciate": e.g., "This helps us to appreciate . . ." Also, "the nations" is another one I've heard many of them use to describe the world. This just cracks me up.
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Is it all downhill after leaving JW's?
by lynnmelo ini know many people will get angry at this, but i had to share some observations i've had since i discovered this board a couple of days ago (see my original post under "why all the venom?").
i'll be very honest and say that i was hoping that i would discover that the jw's were wrong about some things, including the so-called "apostate" sites (i have been recommended to some internet sites and some books that i plan to investigate further).
i was hoping to find that people really didn't need the jw's "spiritual food" to remain true to god.
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lynnmelo
Oh, and seattleniceguy, I just wanted to thank you for making a logical point.