Christian,
I realise they will lose their cherished 1914 date if they agreed on 586/587 but they can just set a new one of 1934/35. They can say "OK fair dues we weren't chosen in 1914 but 1934". Why is that so calamitous as you suggest?
I mean it's like, 1914 equals JWs. It's become a symbol to them, in our judgement way beyond it's importance.
Spectrum
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WTBS article prove 587/586 BC fall of Babylon
by crazies inlabashi-marduk: (9 months) succeeded by nabonidus
(insight volume 1 p.453 chronology; watchtower 1965 january 1 p.29)
evil-merodach: 560 bce562 bce (2 years)
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Bible verses or theological questions which "breaks" JW
by Shazard ini am newbie here and i am not ex-jw.
christ managed to protect me, but my brother fell into this cult.
now coz of this i am confessional lutheran.
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Welcome Shazard,
"Christ managed to protect me, but my brother fell into this cult."
Why did Christ not protect your brother?
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Do you feel that Jehovah drew you away from Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Scatteredsheep ini just joined this forum and while reading old entries came across the following question from may/05: "do you miss feeling that jehovah was listening to your prayers?
" that question and the responses gave me the courage to ask the above question.
about 3 years ago, 5 publishers, including me, were disfellowshipped after jehovah led us to speak up to our elders regarding their inconsiderate treatment of victims who came to them for help.
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Welcome Grammy,
It's interesting that you had doubts for so long but still stuck it out. Was it fear of retribution. Maybe you were in your comfort zone. I wonder how many of the 6 million JWs feel like us?
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Do you feel that Jehovah drew you away from Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Scatteredsheep ini just joined this forum and while reading old entries came across the following question from may/05: "do you miss feeling that jehovah was listening to your prayers?
" that question and the responses gave me the courage to ask the above question.
about 3 years ago, 5 publishers, including me, were disfellowshipped after jehovah led us to speak up to our elders regarding their inconsiderate treatment of victims who came to them for help.
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ScatterSheep,
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Does the King Kong movie have racist overtones?
by enlightenedcynic inhey everybody,.
was having a discussion with a co-worker about the new kk movie.
he asked if i saw it already.
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Trevor,
" I am standing in the corner with my party hat on, waiting to be disciplined."
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Does the King Kong movie have racist overtones?
by enlightenedcynic inhey everybody,.
was having a discussion with a co-worker about the new kk movie.
he asked if i saw it already.
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Trevor,
"Reading through your posts I can see that you consider yourself to be adept with words. You seem to be trying to applying logic to the debate, but your detailed dissection of other people’s remarks fails to achieve the clarity and focus that so many words ought to. Often your retorts do not match the comments you are responding to. Also you name calling and obvious contempt for others in the discussion does not help towards progress."
Obviously I can't help but agree with you. I had a good friend I worked with who had an impressive physical presence and a voice to match which he always used to intimidate anyone that didn't agree with him. You knew someone was being basted by him from a 100m radius! If you knew him you knew he was harmless with it. I take abaddon in this way. However like you, i feel that he stretches his analogies too far from the points being made.
I'm sure abaddon is going to lay into me when he reads this. Hang on .......... OK I've got my flack jacket on. Go for it abaddon. -
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WTBS article prove 587/586 BC fall of Babylon
by crazies inlabashi-marduk: (9 months) succeeded by nabonidus
(insight volume 1 p.453 chronology; watchtower 1965 january 1 p.29)
evil-merodach: 560 bce562 bce (2 years)
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Crazies,
I've just had another thought. Does this date really matter anymore since in 1995 they changed their generation doctrine.
The 1914 edifice was significant because 'millions living now will never die' was in it's infancy. Since the doctrine has changed and 'millions living now WILL certainly die' there is no significant difference between 1914 and 1894.
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Desolation of Jerusalem
by Alwayshere inusing the wts's dates in the january 1.1965 page 29 : nabonidus= 17 years.
add 17 to 539=556, neriglissar==4 years, add 4 to 556=560, evil-marduk=2 years, add 2 to560=562, nebuchadnezzar=43 years, add 43 to 562 =605.
the bible at 2 kings 25: 8 and 9 says "in the 19th year of king nebuchadnezzar the servant of the king came to jerusallem and burned the house of jehovah.
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Alwayshere,
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Double Standard with gender???
by under74 inok--this came up because of another thread.
it didn't really belong on the thread in question so i thought i'd start a new one.
my thinking is that there is a big double standard not just because of religious beliefs but because people are taught that-- men are more sexual than women, men think more about sex than women, men take advantage of this way of thinking and women don't.
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And your filling the female role very well, and that's what your trying to argue against.
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Double Standard with gender???
by under74 inok--this came up because of another thread.
it didn't really belong on the thread in question so i thought i'd start a new one.
my thinking is that there is a big double standard not just because of religious beliefs but because people are taught that-- men are more sexual than women, men think more about sex than women, men take advantage of this way of thinking and women don't.
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Under74
"good freakin lord, I'm a woman and I've lived with men my whole life. I'm sick of jackasses telling how different I feel even though my closest confidants have been male...trust me on this...it's not all that different.
This is one of the those differences Under74, neurotic outbursts when they don't agree with you.