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  Reading the Bible Made Me Leave "The Truth" – & Christianity

  by Seeker4 in

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  i was looking up a couple of verses the other day in my nwt reference bible the one with larger print, footnotes, cross references, etc.

  in my day i was quite a diligent student - the bible is filled with my notes and comments, and i'd already worn out another one earlier.

  one of the things that i found surprising as i was reading my notes, was how often they were pointing out inconsistencies, contradictions and obvious lies in the biblical text.

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  Gregor

  That's a great observation, Seeker. It shows that this method of keeping your audience/followers engaged was employed by the ancients long before the WTS got in the 'biz'.

  Reminds me of when our kids were small and would get restless on a long auto trip. "We're nearly there, just a few more minutes" I'd say, (even though we still had a hundred miles to go) and they would be satisfied and settle down for awhile until it was time for me to say it again. Of course, if they had been able to read road signs and maps they could have called my bluff, but I was taking advantage of my position of authority so I could manipulate their behavior.
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  another life gone

  by darth frosty in

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  this past thurs a young brother ended his life.

  in writing he stated that he could not live up to the demands placed on him.

  i am quite sure that all the local witnesses will hear about this and think what they are programed to think: we need the new system.

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  Gregor

  24 yrs old. Sad beyond words. A waste.
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  Did You Know Elder & M.S. Wannabees?

  by minimus in

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  weren't they sickening??

  always trying to curry favor with the elders and circuit overseers.

  most of those that could never quite make the grade couldn't for a reason.

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  Gregor

  Yes, there was the MS who started "partaking" within two years of being baptized. He was fast tracking and it was so obvious that we elders decided to hold off on making him an elder. He was just too aggressive and was not happy about being passed over, in fact he could hardly believe it. He and his FT pioneer wife went out to some godforsaken place in the midwest as special pioneers for awhile and he was made an elder. He came back and started buying old houses and fixing them up.Once, he and I were helping move a brother and we were driving along in his pick up sharing a pint of whiskey (as any good JW would) and he said, "I want to beat this old system at its own game" meaning getting wealthy.

  Within a few short years he established a "Buy low/Sell high real estate "method" complete with TV infomercials, seminars, cassette tapes, the whole nine yards. He became very (multi-millionaire class) wealthy. You would recognize his name if I mentioned it. During this time I left the org. so I don't know what his situation is now . But he was just a very aggressive, gung ho, young man and at one time it was advancing in the org. that he set his sights on.
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  Would YOU kill someone if you felt they really deserved to die?

  by gaiagirl in

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  could be anyone, osama bin laden, oj simpson, pat robertson, someone who personally hurt you or your family, anyone at all.

  would you pull the trigger, throw the switch, etc, which would end someones life?

  would it make a difference if no one would ever know, versus everyone knowing?

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  Gregor

  Thanks for the tip. That explains a lot. The toads have been looking at me funny.
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  Would YOU kill someone if you felt they really deserved to die?

  by gaiagirl in

  1. jw
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  could be anyone, osama bin laden, oj simpson, pat robertson, someone who personally hurt you or your family, anyone at all.

  would you pull the trigger, throw the switch, etc, which would end someones life?

  would it make a difference if no one would ever know, versus everyone knowing?

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  Gregor

  I think Frankie is waaay past marijuana. I think we're talking a frog licker here.

  (Robdar, I realize that calling Frankie a frog licker is a form of name calling. So, that's strike one.)
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  STUDY: Hallucinogen in mushrooms prompts positive changes in people

  by Elsewhere in

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  http://www.physorg.com/news71808185.html

  scientists show hallucinogen in mushrooms creates universal 'mystical' experience

  using unusually rigorous scientific conditions and measures, johns hopkins researchers have shown that the active agent in "sacred mushrooms" can induce mystical/spiritual experiences descriptively identical to spontaneous ones people have reported for centuries.

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  Gregor

  Mushrooms? Now you tell me! All these years I've been licking frogs! OK, where do I get these fungi? What do you do, cook them up in spaghetti sauce?
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  UFO's If they Are Life From Other Planets Most Likely Benign

  by frankiespeakin in

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  i think that if creatures on other planets evolve enought to design space ships, that can move out of thier solar system for the most part are benign.

  it don't take to long to see that as we evolve with selfish traits, like us humans we can destroy all life on this planet, because we arn't that concerned about other animals or plants.

  and so it seems to me that if a species on any planet were to evolve and get to the point of being able to travel to other solar system and not in the process destroy themselves and the ecosystem which they live that there is a very good chance that they are benign.

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  Gregor

  I see Frankie has chewed through his restraints and got to the 'pooter again.
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  Would YOU kill someone if you felt they really deserved to die?

  by gaiagirl in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  could be anyone, osama bin laden, oj simpson, pat robertson, someone who personally hurt you or your family, anyone at all.

  would you pull the trigger, throw the switch, etc, which would end someones life?

  would it make a difference if no one would ever know, versus everyone knowing?

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  Gregor

  "I don't believe in a moral justice, it is all cultural conditioning anyway, this moral justice thing, there is no right and wrong these are just arbitrary and imaginary illussions of the mind."

  -Frankiespeakin, July, 2006

  Your info says you are 91 years old. Could this be a typo? My guess is the numbers were transposed. The above words of deep intelectual insight sound like something said after a few beers and nice smoke with friends. Then you go home and find that someone has broken into your squat and strangled your puppy.
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  Would YOU kill someone if you felt they really deserved to die?

  by gaiagirl in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  could be anyone, osama bin laden, oj simpson, pat robertson, someone who personally hurt you or your family, anyone at all.

  would you pull the trigger, throw the switch, etc, which would end someones life?

  would it make a difference if no one would ever know, versus everyone knowing?

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  Gregor

  I've noticed that a lot of the response here is either hot blood or cold blood. That is, in the heat of the moment in self defense or in carrying out cold justice. I think the cold justice seems to be the more difficult. I could do either, but the execution would have to have the element of righteous hate for what the person did, i.e., a child molester/murderer.
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  Never Forget, Religion is a Hole

  by Gregor in

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  it is easy to get too curious and fall in.

  you might wander around down there for years, have a family, make friends.

  then you will find it is hard to get out.

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  Gregor

  Not sure what your point is, Double edge. Generalizing? As far as quoting 1 Thess. I not sure I get the application

  Was this too tough to answer?