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  Favorite Demon Stories

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the most fascinating aspects of the jw religion is the profound fear of demons (evil spirits) it engenders in its members.

  i just wondered whether it's something that is used by the leadership as a means of control, or whether it's simply a concept that grew legs and took off on its own?

  first, i believe in evil spirits.

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  Gregor

  Okay, here's a true one. A well to do older JW couple who donated the land for the KH lived next door to it. The Presiding Overseers wife (who lived in a small trailer house) was very obsessed with the demon stuff. She was also an elderette. One day she is visiting the sister next door and notices two expensive end table lamps that are very ornate. She asks the sister about them and is told they were recently purchased. Then she proceeds to point out that there seems to be faces in the lamps abstract design. Next thing you know the lamps have been taken outside and smashed to smithereens and the lampshades crushed.

  Hubby gets home and is told the story. He goes ballistic and confronts the PO about his wifes meddling. I was brought in as the Matt. 18 token peacemaker. It was an ugly, awkward situation. Nothing really came of it except hard feelings and the elderette seemed to keep a low profile for a time.

  Anyone living in Modesto CA who was associated during the 70's and 80's would recognize the POs name. He and wife were (are?) very strange people and this was just one example.
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  Their heart does not appear to be in it.

  by Bungi Bill in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  all the jws that have called at my door over the last twelve years have appeared to be just going through the motions:.

  - like they are merely (and only) fullfilling their obligations to record a reasonable in total in that column on the monthly field service report entitled "hours.".

  the last lot actually seemed to be relieved that they had an excuse to disengage the enemy, and flee the field.

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  Gregor

  As Heaven has experienced, it seems they have developed a keen ear for any householder comments or questions that reveal a knowledge of JW beliefs. They can't retreat fast enough.
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  Wish I knew where to get a new double electric breast pump...

  by Gregor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my old one sucks.. of all the strange ads that pop up here this is the oddest.

  didn't even know there was such a gizmo..

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  Gregor

  my old one sucks.

  Of all the strange ads that pop up here this is the oddest. Didn't even know there was such a gizmo.
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  North Korea just attacked South Korea, wonder where this will head........

  by miseryloveselders in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40329269/ns/world_news-asiapacific/.

  seoul north korea bombarded a south korean island with dozens of artillery shells tuesday in one of the fiercest attacks on its neighbor since the korean war ended in 1953.. .

  there's more to the story, but copying and pasting was somewhat awkward.

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  Gregor

  It is widely believed that Japan already has nuke capability. So does Israel.

  Pakistan and India set one off every so often just to remind everyone. Russia has hundreds laying around like easter eggs at a kids picnic.

  I hope I never see one used in my lifetime, but I do have grandchildren.
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  Bristol Palin and her typical black & white right-wing / religious mindset

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  so, bristol palin is through to the final on dancing with the stars even though it's obvious to everyone with half a brain that she doesn't deserve to be based on her dancing.

  she's there simply because the obsessive palin fundies are voting for her.. i thought it was interesting listening to her describe people who think she shouldn't be there as "the haters".. what black and white thinking and typical of the religious / right-wing mentality.

  people can't have an opinion that is based on reality and see that better dancers were voted off while she stayed way past her skill level warranted.

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  Gregor

  Of course there are then echoes in politics where people are elected based on ... what? their skills? or just because the unthinking zealots are rounded up and told to vote for them.

  Yeah, like Obama.
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  North Korea just attacked South Korea, wonder where this will head........

  by miseryloveselders in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40329269/ns/world_news-asiapacific/.

  seoul north korea bombarded a south korean island with dozens of artillery shells tuesday in one of the fiercest attacks on its neighbor since the korean war ended in 1953.. .

  there's more to the story, but copying and pasting was somewhat awkward.

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  Gregor

  NK has provokes the world on a regular basis and each time they get rewarded with money and food aid. The starving masses don't benefit, it all goes into military hardware and toys for Kim the Nutjob.
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  In the Style of ASilentOne ...

  by snowbird in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what is the best way to eat an apple?.

  syl.

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  Gregor

  Apples and bananas are childs play. Try a pomegranet. The trouble with peeling a pom. is that there is no motivation. All those little red seeds have almost zero taste (except bitter.) Never quite understood that fruit and we used to have a couple of trees that produced an abundant crop. Us kids liked to throw them at each other.

  PS Didn't ASO just post a goodbye thread? Did I dream that? Don't see it anymore.
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  Pre-Thanksgiving snow - here we go

  by Gregor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just a trace but a good indicator of what kind of el nina winter we are in for.

  high of 24 here today, in the teens tonight.

  i will be making salmon chowder today.

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  Gregor

  just a trace but a good indicator of what kind of El Nina winter we are in for. High of 24 here today, in the teens tonight. I will be making Salmon chowder today. Bought a couple of new books* yesterday and wifey has stockpiled enough yarn to crochet hats for the whole fam.

  * the new Michael Connelly and the Ken Follett book, Fall of Giants. Finished the Keith Richards autobio. "Life". If anyone would like to have it PM a mailing address and I will send it as an early Xmas gift. It is booger-free.
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  Was there a 1974 Franz speech and subsequent coverup?

  by Nickolas in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  for those of us who remember it first hand, the 1975 fiasco is a strong indicator that the watchtower bible and tract society is not what it represents itself to be.

  in the late 1970's, after several years of unprecedented growth, the wtbts experienced an exodus of disallusioned thousands which many attribute to the failed 1975 prophesy (see www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/1975.php for details).

  the wtbts hierarchy subsequently played down the great disappointment of 1975, blamed its rank and file for having precipitated it, and has successfully swept it under the carpet.

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  Gregor

  I recall going to the KH one evening around that time to hear the Fred via some kind of phone hook up. He hashed over all the 1975 stuff and then he dropped the big loop hole - the amount of time between Adam and the creation of Eve. Even then I remember getting a queasy feeling that we had just heard the big waffle.
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  Is the World really getting worse?

  by Nickolas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a fundamental platform of the watchtower bible and tract society, from which its fearsome prognostications are launched, is the inexorable deterioration of the world.

  the world is becoming a less and less hospitable place in which to live.

  it seems with news of every earthquake, every natural catastrophe, every epidemic, every atrocity, and every disaster manmade or otherwise, there is the inevitable shaking of the finger and stern proclamation, "see?

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  Gregor

  I think it is getting better in many respects as some have pointed out.

  But I do feel that the proliferation of 'news' media has created such a demand for CONTENT that it is distorting the impressions we are getting about the world. Thanks to video and the internet the ability to transmit images of crime and disaster all over the world many people get the distorted impression all these things are increasing at an alarming rate. Just a few of the things that get disproportionate coverage:

  Sex crimes

  murders

  police chases

  convenience store hold ups

  child abductions

  natural and man made disasters

  the list goes on and on. The media needs this raw material to fill out their programing and sell cars, cornflakes and laundry soap. I think each individual has to try to sift through this flood of 'news' and decide for themselves what is worth their attention.