Relax slave 1111,
He just hasn't developed his self control fully yet. I feel his pain as well. Please forgive him ok. you can keep it charged to my account.
your little brother,
David
is it killing 42 children because they called prophet elisha a bald headed man (which he probably was, so they did ot even lie)?.
is it killing 70000 innocent israelites because the king david does a counting of the people?
(it is hard to keep the numbers right if the fluctuate so much).
Relax slave 1111,
He just hasn't developed his self control fully yet. I feel his pain as well. Please forgive him ok. you can keep it charged to my account.
your little brother,
David
tall texan made a really good point earlier, and i would like to see if i can get more feedback on it.
if that was made known to the american people before it happened, many more people would have died than did.
after the "truth" was made known, after the fact.
Thanks Blondie, Would it be fair to say Ben and George would be opponets in a election? Hey, wait a minute.....What if someone asked Bush if he agreed with this quote from our founding father? What would he say? If he agreed, he would be going against his own "wisdom" and desires. If he tried to refute it, he would be openly rebelling the founding father. What is the defense "how do you define "freedom"? How do you define"liberty"? Turning the question around at the questioner.
can I get somemore feedback?
tall texan made a really good point earlier, and i would like to see if i can get more feedback on it.
if that was made known to the american people before it happened, many more people would have died than did.
after the "truth" was made known, after the fact.
Tall Texan made a really good point earlier, and I would like to see if I can get more feedback on it. D-day. If that was made known to the American people before it happened, many more people would have died than did. After the "truth" was made known, after the fact. They were praised for pulling it off. We thanked and admired them for "decieving" us and our enemies as well. It turned out to be a good tactic.
When you "decieve" your people, and THEY find out about it before you succeed...shame on you. How far does National security go? and what happens when it is used to cover up a leaders ulterior motives? I mean, he could use it either way as he saw fit. Try to find out his intentions, and he can hide behind "national security". What can you do to get that information after that? So really, he can do what ever he wants to a degree, provided he does not get caught, and the people in on the "plan" are loyal to him. Spying on him would not even work.
What is up with the serpent? Why did it "decieve"? can we ever find out his true motivations, or should we be content blaming him for everything instead. Where is the proof ?
let me know what you think....
is it killing 42 children because they called prophet elisha a bald headed man (which he probably was, so they did ot even lie)?.
is it killing 70000 innocent israelites because the king david does a counting of the people?
(it is hard to keep the numbers right if the fluctuate so much).
Did the Apostles ever kill or punish one another? Who did the "smiting" in those days? The only evidence of this I can think of is in Acts 12 about Herod. Also Acts 5. I don't see them having them the authority to punish anyone. Am I missing something? I didn't see them call the cops to do it for them either. Am I missing something here? Did David ever get an answer as to why Jehovah killed his people for what he did? Did he not question Him though? Or was he "disobeying" Jehovah by asking the question?
that is kinda goofy.
he says it is his job to protect us!?
by taking our freedom and privacy away?
Well D-day is a good example, for your reasoning. Nice move. Could the same goal have been achieved without "deception"?
If you must "decieve" your "flock" to "protect" them, Will they trust you? After it was said and done, the truth about known, were they not thanked for pulling it off?
This reasoning you pose is valid, and I think, hold the answers to many mysteries. Very nicely said....
Could you post this question as a new topic? I would like to hear many more different angles to this. I think someone might be holding the key to fully answering this. I would love to hear the feedback.
....."deception" for "protection".........?
Boy, you got a little something under your hood don't you?
"share" it with me please.
Your little brother,
David
what kind of people are you !!
realy if you had a loved member of your family hurt in a accident and needed blood you would let them die what and all you come out with is they will come back in he new system what a load of shite you talk.
there is not going to be a new system its all a load of bollocks make no wonder your breath stinks of shite as its all the shit what comes out of it .
butting heads, result in headaches. Seek and destroy works much better. Is "seeking" and "arguing" the same thing? Sounds like you need a bible study with you r daughter and her "teacher". Armed only with the truth...."seachin....seek and destroy....." Metallica
Find the truth, go attack the lie.
if your not too rusty with dub teachings, you remember that to commit the unforgivable sin, you had to deny the holy spirits begetting you.
it would be like one of the annointed purposely saying................ "i don't want to worship jehovah anymore nor have any part of him or his son inspite of the fact he annointed me".. in christendom, it is likewise a denial of the spirit when you know it's for real.
!...one day freddy franz got so pissed at apostates and slacker dubs, he decided he was gonna write a watchtower article and kick some major ass!
Yeah Ozzie,
The God they serve is a "crusher" to suit their desires to have their mistakes "crushed" instead of "fixed". It really burns my ass too. What gets me the most is they "expect" a reward for their "work"!!!!
Have they lost their ever-loving minds?
They are in grave danger too...If nobody points out their errors...it would be the same as judging them to death...But" warning" them, I think is the same as "exposing" them. I believe it is very dangerous work. We know what our leader went through, and he told us what to expect. I would like nothing better then to take them all on, but if I do so, It is the same as lifting "wieghts" for someone else, so they can grow stronger. Ain't gonna work. I guess it would be like a drill instructor in the army completing "basic training" for the troops he is going in to battle with. Noble...but...stupid. Noble for the sheep, Stupid for the soldiers?
What do you think Ozzie? I have been raised for this, I don't know if anyone else has or not. I just know I don't want to go into a hot LZ with a bunch of "sheep". we will all get slaughtered. However, I don't want to ask someone to do something I would not do myself either. I simply need to go first. Time to meet the "hostiles".
your little brother,
David
let's say you go back to your hometown for a family funeral.
you're not df'd or da'd, but most haven't heard from you for many years.
you know you'll get the inevitable "so are you going to meetings?
Pistoff,
I am right with you buddy. And I LOVE it as well. I have never felt so alive in my whole life.
I pray for the accusations, stupid orders, and the ol' lady's bitching.
I won't stop until they question for themselves who told them such a stupid thing. I always end up here..."Well you just gotta do it, because nobody can change it."
I never allow myself to get out of control, I keep the upper hand and my cool. So if they don't, they make themselves look bad in front of themselves, or anyone around. I am simply a child asking questions, trying to learn, "flattering" them with my undivided attention.
if your not too rusty with dub teachings, you remember that to commit the unforgivable sin, you had to deny the holy spirits begetting you.
it would be like one of the annointed purposely saying................ "i don't want to worship jehovah anymore nor have any part of him or his son inspite of the fact he annointed me".. in christendom, it is likewise a denial of the spirit when you know it's for real.
!...one day freddy franz got so pissed at apostates and slacker dubs, he decided he was gonna write a watchtower article and kick some major ass!
My Father would want me to "fight" and "obey" Him, by my own choice, after I was told the truth about why I need to. If he wanted a mindless, robot, jarhead to lead a charge, He picked the wrong one here. I wasn't raised that way.
It is pretty slick how they try so hard to make a "man of God" seem too hard for a man who knows he is a sinner. No sex, no drinking, no dipping, no smoking, no R movies, no hair bands, etc....Is this to keep the average repentant sinner below the ones who are good at covering theirs? Not "worthy" to approach their Father by themselves?
oops.
Do they really believe there is a God, and yet still do these things anyway? Or do they not believe as they say they do? Any ideas?
ok, so, i heard recently that the wtb&ts takes in over a billion dollars in the us alone.
that's a lot of cash.
it seems to me, from my limited vantage point, that the society is indeed doing the things it says it's doing with the money - support co's and do's, building kingdom halls, and so on.
Yes, we would like to expand our intelligence network. J.W.D.I.A.