he commanded us to forgive anyone who sins agianst us.
" like our current gb?
is the gb authorized to answer this question?
He commanded us to forgive anyone who sins agianst us. Would He not do the same as an example? Would it be "do as I say...not as I do?" Like our current GB?
Somehow..I think NOT.
Is the GB authorized to answer this question? Who on earth is?
Any thoughts?
i have been seeing this more and more.
has anyone else?
In our society where success is taking advantage of people for personal gain, without being taken advantage of in turn, Questioning is your only real protection against being a victim/misled by someone else trying to scratch their way to the top over you. IMO
Could I be wrong?
Would the GB, be able to enslave and mislead their people, if they questioned every opinion they presented as facts/truth?
Not without a really big gun IMO.
this is my first posting on jwd!
i wrote out my disassociation letter.
i am sending many in the congregation copies of my letters exposing the fine "elders".
Congrats Hawkeye! Did you bring any elders out with you?
I went back in somewhat. I am studying again. Perhaps I may be able to rescue an entire congragation. That is my goal.
Is that "possible"?
I feel like I am making decent progress too. As soon as You kick start their minds with a question they can't answer...It is a truly rewarding experence for me.
i have been seeing this more and more.
has anyone else?
Just seems the more things I used to accept as facts, when I question them as opinions..they don't hold up very well.
Then I ask myself how could I have allowed myself to been misled like that?
I was wondering if anyone else had similar feelings?
i sometimes wonder if perhaps some of the higher ups in the organization are visiting this forum.
perhaps it has become a valuable source for them to "test the waters" before something goes public to see what the reaction would be?
am i overreacting?
That would never happen as they cannot admit they were wrong. They have painted themselves as the Word of God. To change or new/contrary information would prove this to be a lie. They have dug their graves...Jesus is not going to let them escape without admission of their wrongdoings and the ceasing of such. IMO
He is the teacher....they are going to have to be students..they have no choice.
I will be so happy when I get to hear His opinions on things, rather than His puppetmasters opinions presented as His. IMO
i have been seeing this more and more.
has anyone else?
I have been seeing this more and more. Has anyone else?
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i seen this topic on another site today, and it got my attention.
my answer was "a answer is an accepted opinion.
It seems the more "facts" I question..the more opinions I discover.
we went to lunch at our local cafe on saturday, and there were two families - still jws, also dining there, (in different parts of the cafe).
we expected the usual shunning treatment, but surprisingly they initiated the "hellos and how are you" and seemed genuinely pleased to see us (we have been out of the org for over 3 yrs now and we are always shunned whenever we see former jw friends) it was such a surprise to us and we couldn't help wondering if the governing body have issued "new light" on the treatment of disassociated ones.
especially as these two families have completely avoided us for a long time, even though we personally wrote to them to explain our reasons for leaving (un involvement etc+) .
All you gotta do is point out how it can adversly affect thier pockets and power...they are easilly convinced and manipulated by money and power. Shunned people contribut less to their KH's..it has been proven in a poll. LOL IMO
If all apostates were rich, giving people...they would no longer be "apostates" they would become "brothers". just like if satan repented..he would no longer be satan..he would probably become Christ.?
IMO
vendors of paradise in district xvi
cafe babel - strasbourg,france .
jehovahs witnesses are often criticised.
I can't wait for Jesus to come and reward them, for what they have earned. I hope he has mercy on them, even though They hope He has no mercy on us. I am no hypocrite...I am evil and would be just fine with mercy.
for those unfamiliar with the societys veiws on what apostasy is, this is from the elder manuel under.
..."elders ruling for justice itself".. apostasy.. apostasy is a standing away from, a falling away, defec-.
tion, rebellion, abandonment; it involves teaching false.
Yeah...and when they label anyone who questions them a "apostate", if nobody questions them and their opinion stated as a fact. It actually becomes "truth" until somebody stands up for them, and asks "why". Then they are punished for this love of truth, and shunned as well. I am sure Jesus approves of this behavior, and they will be highly rewarded when He arrives.
or did He say: "Don't judge..lest YOU be judged." Guess that was figurative speaking, or symbolic? I can't wait to find out for sure.
IMO
