Rick how about trying to get hold of the 2009 complete service report for Saturday. That would interest a lot of us.
Posts by alanv
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34Christmas, the worst time of year for Jehovah's Witnesses
by koolaid-man inthe holidays are here and they certainly do present a problem for jehovah's witnesses once again.
christmas parties at work, getting christmas bonuses, dealing with holiday greetings, christmas carols, decorated trees and houses, santa claus everywhere, christmas candy, sleighbells ringing brings the witnesses into a very troubling and disturbing time of year.how do most witnesses handle it all?
we will be discussing these questions with former witnesses and active witnesses on the conference call this saturday night, december 19,2009 at 7 p.m. the conference call is presented like a radio talk show program.
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2009 Annual Worldwide Service Report -- 7.3 Million Publishers
by Joker10 inchina: the number of publishers has increased.
in some parts of the mainland, they can openly go door to door without much interference.
there are actally buildings now used as kingdom halls.
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alanv
The figures may have come from the U S Kingdom Ministry. I got some of the U K report from the British edition a few weeks ago. The 2010 Yearbook should soon be out if it is not already and I'm sure we would all appreciate seeing a scanned copy on this site as soon as our American friends get a copy,
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The book,In Search of Christian Freedom
by pat1060 ini have been reading the book in search of christian freedom by r franz.i just finished the chapter on the house to house ministry....unbelieveble.
he shows a totally different way of explaining the scriptures.i never realized how much the gb slants every thing to it's teachings.they need the nwt to do this.if you haven't read this book,you really should.what i'm wondering if you have read it,what stands out for you.....
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alanv
I would just add that anyone with any special privileges in the cong. ie Elders, Mini Servants or pioneers would not stay in those positions very long if they refused to share in the house to house work.
The book is excellent. (except for it's size of over 700 pages) Every witness or ex witness should read it. It is a real eye opener.
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Is the Door to Door Preaching Obsolete?
by lepermessiah ini wanted to get some opinions on this.. the last few years i was active as a jw, i thought that the door-to-door preaching work was the biggest waste of time.
you rarely got anyone home, those you did get home were rarely interested, and it seemed like a huge waste of resources.. in line with that thought, i was speaking with a gentleman at work the other day - he is a very active pastor in the community, and him and i have gotten to be pretty good friends - we have had a ton of interesting conversations.he recently moved his church to a bigger location due to past and expected future growth.. he was telling me that one of his big concerns was the fall-off of church attendance in our area.
he had a company actually come in and do a study for him with census information, demographics, etc.
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alanv
Dozy is right. There is no evidence that Jesus went from door to door, and the scriptures in Acts that the society uses, shows that Paul and the other disciples taught people in their homes rather than going from door to door all over the area. The societies book the Interlinea version of the bible shows the scriptures are more correctly translated 'in peoples homes' not 'door to door'. In Ray Franz books he showed how his uncle, Fred Franz new this but chose not to make it clear to the rest of the governing body.
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IT IS THE BEST WAY OF LIFE, says my Dub sister.
by wobble inas some may remember, i posted about being dubious as to accepting anniversary presents this year from my super-dub family, esp.
my older sister.. well we agreed with the consensus on here that it was best to accept with gratitude and this we have done, but i would just like to reproduce what she wrote in the card accompanying the present and flowers.. after the happy anniversary she wrote :.
"it makes us sad to think of all the anniversaries past when you were part of our christian congregation.
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alanv
Well you could say ' it's only a good way of life if I do exactly as I'm told and not try and do something with my life. Frankly I want more out of my life than that. You must admit that any love that is shown in the cong is totally conditional on me towing the line. Well I can't live like that. There is a world out there to be explored and I'm having a great time now exploring it'
Just an idea!
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Serena Williams , Five Minute Interview with the BBC
by BluesBrother inas always, if you have put this up already, i apologise... halfway into the video she is asked about j w's.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8408673.stm.
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alanv
Interesting. She says she is a JW and that she does informal witnessing, which I guess makes sense as she is away so much.
However she can hardly say she is no part of the world as JWs teach, when her main aim in life is to be the best tennis player in the world. Also her sexy outfits can hardly be called modest as would be expected of a normal witness woman. Still good luck to her. I think it is rearly good that she hasn't let the WT take over her life and she clearly uses her own brain unlike many JWs.
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alanv
Hey what about me I'm quite nice really!!
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Baptism numbers decreasing?
by Mattieu inthe last 3 weekends have seen 3 circuit assemblies in victoria with over 1000 attending each circuit.
yet only 10 baptised over the last 3 weeks, including 3 last weekend.
i can remember a few years ago when only 1 bro was baptised at a 2 day convention.. its funny, when 10-20 were being baptised at each circuit assembly back in the 1980s & early 90s it was always brought out that this was a sign of jehovahs blessing upon the org.
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alanv
Here in the U K there were just 14 more baptised this service year to last year. Certainly nothing like the increases in the past.
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untitled
by jam inmy brother, who is a elder, email my sister who is not a jw, to explain to her why.
he can not associate or speak to me.a little history, i have been out since 1987, have moved on.
with my life.the rest of the family( not jw) can not understand why after all this time they are still.
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alanv
Jam I know it is horrible but did you not know what would happen when you were disfellowshipped. If you are living an unscriptual life now then witnesses and family witnesses will not talk to you. Their error of course is they think they have the truth. In fact it is very far from the truth but they believe it. Probably your only hope is to try to live according to their standards even if those standards are wrong. Either that or get reinstated and then over time simply fade away as many have done. I wish you well.
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Hi again, I've been absent for a bit
by Marni Mai ini was previously crazyblonde (couldn't get into my account after being absent for a while 0_o).. long story short, things have been interesting.. i'm successfully in the faded stage now.
got a bit of hounding - had a few elders calling and texting my husband about me (he's still in, kinda).
had an 'unexpected drop in' at our place too, which i didn't even know about until after as my hubby kept them outside.
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alanv
Good news Marni, it's not easy fading, you do tend to have to watch your back as the org doesn't like people in the in between stage. I know I am in the same situation as you. With me it is my son who is still in. Just one warning to you. They can theoretically disfellowship you if you have contact or a meal with your disfellowshipped friend.
It sounds to me that it won't be too long before your hubby joins you. You are so right not pushing it. Just show all the family how much happier your life is now. I wish you well