Posts by alanv

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Anyone got the December KM yet for UK

by alanv in

as it is the end of the jw service year, it would be nice to see how they finished up in august 2010 as regards total publishers.. quite often there seems to be a big push to get as many as possable to put in a service report to finish the year off.. so a scan would be good or just a report on how many publishers they ended up with.

thanks.

alanv

Hi factfinder. Yes it was posted. Here is the link

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/200072/1/OKM_November_2010_for_Britain_OCRd-pdf

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Anyone got the December KM yet for UK

by alanv in

as it is the end of the jw service year, it would be nice to see how they finished up in august 2010 as regards total publishers.. quite often there seems to be a big push to get as many as possable to put in a service report to finish the year off.. so a scan would be good or just a report on how many publishers they ended up with.

thanks.

alanv

Thanks ever so much fokyc. My jw son is always going on about the great increase in the org, and these end of year figures for UK show that certainly in UK there is no great increase.

They did have a new peak in publishers of 134,339, but the years average publishers was a rather pathetic 1% increase, barely keeping up with the population growth in Britain

Pioneers were up 2% 0n last year, possably caused by the recession with more JWs out of work, they may well have spent more time door knocking.

Interesting figure for baptisms was the average of 2611 which is a 12% DROP on last year. The memorial figure showed a drop as well of 637 less in attendance.

If the rest of Europe pans out the same as UK, that will be at least be one continent where the org is slowly dying.

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Anyone got the December KM yet for UK

by alanv in

as it is the end of the jw service year, it would be nice to see how they finished up in august 2010 as regards total publishers.. quite often there seems to be a big push to get as many as possable to put in a service report to finish the year off.. so a scan would be good or just a report on how many publishers they ended up with.

thanks.

alanv

As it is the end of the JW service year, it would be nice to see how they finished up in August 2010 as regards total publishers.

Quite often there seems to be a big push to get as many as possable to put in a service report to finish the year off.

So a scan would be good or just a report on how many publishers they ended up with. Thanks

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This is scary we are to put the GB in the same place as Jesus according to the Dec 15 WT

by life is to short in

i do not know how to scan the wt if someone can it would be great but i wrote it out verbatim .

i think what the wt says speaks for its self.

am i missing something and or reading something into what they are saying.

alanv

If you thought that magazine was good, check this out from the September 15th 2010 Watchtower page 23

The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of the modern-day Governing Body, they are in fact following their Leader, Christ.

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HELP ME PLEASE

by Found Sheep in

i started a topic about jw's on a local chat room.

www.etater.com i am not a good writer and could use help.

alanv

Hi found sheep. Can I direct you to the Jehovah's Witness forum on TOPIX website.

You will find a lot of ex witnesses and witnesses there who regularly debate the latest ramblings of the governing body. Hope to see you there.

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How many have you gotten out of the Borg?

by TweetieBird in

i'll start -.

i have officially gotten 2 out so far, which is more than i ever got into it, with the exception of my son that i begged not to get baptized.

he, however, is disfellowshipped now and wants nothing to do with the organization.

alanv

I think it is very hard for us to know definately who we have helped out, but I do know I saved my younger son from joining when my eldest son joined them.

Also many of us write on JW forums and I know there are many who are helped there by all the ex witnesses who expose what really goes on in the tower.

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What is the shelf life of the WT & Awake rags?

by serenitynow! in

at what point do they stop being spiritual food dispensed at the proper time, and start being "apostate .

alanv

To be honest, there is going to be some truth in any of their magazines. It's just the further you go back the more things you will find wrong.

As has been said, with their publications, things change all the time, but that does not mean everything is wrong. Particularly in the Awake there are many good articles about life on the planet. On the doors I used to say to poeple that the Awake is more of a Readers Digest magazine.

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When Bread Becomes a Dollar a Loaf, It Will Be Too Expensive To Live!

by VM44 in

"when bread becomes a dollar a loaf, it will be too expensive to live!".

anyone remember that being said by the jws?.

i am wondering if was a quote from an article or book, or something the jws came up with on their own?.

alanv

Never heard that one before but certainly the type of comment you could read in a Watchtower.

Over the years the society have made all sorts of remarks aimed at showing that soon we will not be able to cope because of the mounting problems coming upon man.

And hey, guess what everything they have said in that regard has proved totally false.

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Menlo Park Kingdom Hall - Part Deux

by Juan Viejo2 in

this message is important!

timing is critical!.

those of you who have read my previous postings about the lawsuit over the remodel and potential sale of the menlo park, california kingdom hall are aware that i have been trying desperately to contact someone in the area who can help me get more information on this case.. .

alanv

If this is so important to you why don't you wait until you have more accurate information. I realize you want to visit the area when you are in the vicinity, but maybe you should make the trip again, when you have a fuller understanding of what is going on.

Did you contact Rick Fearon, as he did a conference call on it. Sorry I can't be more helpful but if the story is as big as you think maybe it is best to wait until the true picture emergies.

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Jesus Trashes 1914 in ONE Sentence!

by Farkel in

it only takes one short sentence from the bible to thoroughly demolish the watchtower religion and the doctrine they claim is their most important one.

this sentence is so crystal clear that there is no way the wts can weasal out of it.

that's why they don't even try.. although their real most important doctrine is that the governing body speaks for god, their claimed most important doctrine begins with the notion that jesus took kingdom power and began reigning in 1914. if that doctrine can be shown to be false, the entire watchtower theology scam crumbles into the trash heap where it belongs.

alanv

The WTBTS teaches that Christ will rule for a thousand years. They also teach that he began his rule in 1914. Yet they teach the thousand year reign hasn't started yet. How did we miss that? It's so obvious!

cd. I'm not sure a JW would worry over that scripture. I think they would merely say the thousand year rule is simply a special time when Jesus is ruling to turn the earth into a paradise with all the resurrected anointed ones.

Farkel. Yes that does seem to rather make the point doesn't it?