I went to my JW son's wedding recently and when the bride came into the hall, the witnesses stayed seated. I asked why they did not stand and do you know what the presiding oversear said. 'It's a bit like worship isn't it.' I was speechless.
Posts by alanv
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16Short memorials, boring weddings, no birthdays, etc...just because it places too much emphasis on a person?
by Chemical Emotions indoes that seem fair?
did it ever make you feel kind of...ashamed to be a human?.
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Are you an "apostate"?
by cedars ini'm quite new to this site, and i've noticed that many of you are more than happy to call yourselves "apostates", even though many of you evidently believe in the bible and in jesus as saviour, etc.. i'm aware that the society brands anyone who disagrees with them as being an "apostate", but just because they choose to do this, does this mean we should be comfortable with being so branded?
should we "bend over" and take it?.
here is what the insight book says on apostasy:.
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alanv
When anyone on a JW forum calls me an apostate, I remind them that actually many of them are too. If they came from another religion to being a JW it is exactly the same as me leaving their religion.
Having said that I always call witnesses who have left the religion for any reason ex witnesses. That is not only more polite it is more accurate.
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untitled
by Mad Sweeney inartist jess black to create an entire series of art works depicting the oppression of growing up a jw.
he is going to call it "leather bound in red or black" and he's making no apologies even though he's already receiving criticism about it.. http://www.newswiretoday.com/news/95809/.
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alanv
It's always good to read (and see) personal accounts from ex witnesses. Let's hope a lot of people see his work and learn how oppresive and controlled a person is in the organisation.
Incidently mad, did you realize you had no title on your post. I think often people scoot over posts with no title.
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Anyone Have the August OKM ?
by Maralee indose anyone have the okm for august?
thank you in advance.
maralee.
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alanv
I think the September 2011 is out too. I always appreciate anyone posting them. It helps those of us who have family still in, to know what they are up to.
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Being A Jehovah's Witness is Simply A Waste Of Time!!!
by minimus ini hope that if any witness sees this thread, they understand that being a witness = being a time waster.. please understand this.
if you don't believe me, i'm sure others here will agree.. if you can salvage any of your time that is left, do it!
get out of this false religion.
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alanv
I guess I was lucky. I had a great social life as a witness. Always plenty of friends to go around with. I also enjoyed the power of being a pioneer and mini servant. Also learnt how to speak to different types of people and to address a large meeting.
Having said that the so called friends dropped me like a hot potato when I left for disagreeing with the society.
So I have good and bad memories of my time with them.
However much of those things I mentioned I could have learnt elsewhere if I wanted.
The worst thing is realizing your so called friends are totally conditional on you agreeing with all that they say. I am well rid of friends like that.
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Who was Cains wife?
by trailerfitter inexcuse me for being uneducated on the bible, especially the genesis.
apparently cain had a wife....where did she come from?
were the children involved in incest or were there other people outside the garden of eden?
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alanv
I always thought a better question regarding those times was where was the land of Nod that Cain when off to?
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Watchtower Dress Code at Elder School Knorr Style!
by Marvin Shilmer inwatchtower dress code at elder school knorr style!
today i uploaded a new article to my blog addressing watchtowers dress code for attending and speaking at its elder schools.
those with personal experience at these events should immediately recognize a big difference between then and now.
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alanv
Marvin you seem to have a real obsession with what the society did in the past. Life and death issues are one thing, but come on, who cares what they wear. In business meetings, some are formal some are not. It really does not matter.
As far as the society goes we need to concerntrate on what they are saying and doing now, not worring about what they used to wear 30 years ago.
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2011 DC Friday Keynote Address - Who are Preaching the "Good News Of The Kingdom"
by dontplaceliterature indid anyone happen to hear this talk?
ours was given by a southern circuit overseer.
it was really a "whoa team!
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alanv
I don't know why anyone would be surprised at those words, the society have been saying the same thing for years. They always have been arrogant.
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I NEED TO KNOW THE "TRUTH".
by hubert inare baptized jehovah's witnesses allowed to go to a catholic priest's funeral?.
would elders allow this?
(without them being reproved)?.
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alanv
When my brother got married in a Catholic church we went, but made sure we were not part of the service by sitting away from the wedding party.
I think that is where the trouble would come, if you joined in with the service. Just observing is as has been said just a conscience matter.
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Jehovah / Yahweh is responsible for mankinds inhumanity to man & beast
by smiddy inif you beleive the bible account in genesis when cain killed abel, why didn`t jehovah/yahweh kill cain right then and their.?
" an eye for an eye"!!.
apparently cain had no remorse for killing his brother and was only concerned that someone would come after him to avenge abels death,so what does the almighty god jehovah do ?
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alanv
That 'land of the fugitives' is ridiculous, unless the account means he went to join his mother and father and brother Seth. There was nowon else living apparantly at that time.