Posts by alanv

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Advice needed

by Peony in

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can someone tell me the scriptural basis (according to jw's) for shunning disassociated ones.

only asking because i don't remember (probably wasn't that interested) i'm sure the shunning in the scriptures was just applied to disfellowshipped.

i've only been out 3 years but i seem to have forgotten any scriptures or reasoning!

alanv

Xanthippe & Peony

That scripture is talking about those that deny Jesus came in the flesh or do not keep to his teachings.

JWs who disassociate themselves normally do so for the reason that they no longer go along with Watchtower's false teachings. Most still have a strong faith in Jesus and his teachings. At baptism these days you have to agree to work along with the org, and if you no longer wish to do that, they will say you have disassociated yourself. However there is nothing in the scriptures that says if you reject any false teachings you should be shunned, and certainly nothing in the bible that says you have to go along with anyone teaching something that is not scriptural.

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Has anyone else collected their money back from local Kingdom Halls for money loaned for construction?

by StoneWall in

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just a reminder if you haven't, to get it back before they sell any more halls.even if you're currently da/df you can still collect any monies owed you by the kingdom hall as far as loans go.we were able to get back $1000 that my mom had loaned the local hall for a loan to build new one.it was documented by the paper that had been given each publisher back then on how much they could/would be willing to give as an outright donation or a loan.

the loan was to be paid back whenever the publisher requested it.

(not a specific date)i can't help but feel that a lot of the old timers that loaned monies to the society and/or k-halls have been forgot about by them or their families.

alanv

Really good thread this. There must be many ex JWs who lent money in the past and for whatever reason never claimed the money back. Now is certainly the time to get it back.

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DF'ed arrival/departure times at meetings

by dubstepped in

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i didn't want to derail another thread, but something said made me wonder.

i know that i noticed df'ed people come in right when the meeting started and leave right when it left most of the time.

is that some sort of actual rule?

alanv

There is certainly nothing written that says they must come as late as possible, and leave immediately. But the elders are well aware if the dis. person hangs around, it makes it very difficult for JWs to totally ignore the person.

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2016-1-12-BOE--Mentioning Donation Arrangement to Householder!

by Atlantis in

2016-1-12-boe.

"apply yourself to the field ministry," the "initial call" assignmentdirects the student to mention the donation arrangement..http://postimg.org/image/tayz8pawn/..atlantis!

alanv

So looks like the rules for donating are different, depending on what part of the world you live in.

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Donation reminders in the magazine

by wisdomfrombelow in

i just noticed that in recent study editons of the watchtower they mention on the inside cover that the magazines are free of charge but if you want to make a donation you can at their website.

i noticed it from the march 2016 edition.

i wonder if will be in the clam meeting workbooks as well...

alanv

So is it now excepted by JWs that they should pay for any literature that is placed by them?

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Exactly where is the expansion?

by NeverKnew in

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there is a thread that i'm really enjoying discussing the consolidation of congregations into existing kingdom halls.

i'm realizing that the only threads that have spoken of building were related to branch offices.

we know the wts's consolidations and reopening a are a shell game of sorts but i'm wondering... is anyone seeing an increase in kingdom halls in their part of the world?

alanv

Its strange. In UK there was no publisher increase, yet they had a 2.25% increase in new congregations. Can anyone explain it?

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Good news to report: Congregations merged because lack of attendance, publishers & field service

by Khaleesi in

so it's official, i am happy to report that we merged with another congregation having the same problem.

why is it good news???

because people are either waking up, fading or just not buying into this organization any longer or walking away.... i think many young ones are just not buying into it as much, i see many in the congregation i go to very depressed and some i know personally going thru major depression especially the young "sisters" in their early 20s.... .

alanv

Certainly good to hear about congs merging in this way, but if we look at the worldwide report congs had a 2.25% increase compared with 1.5% publisher increase. Probably its a matter of the developed world shrinking whereas the developing lands are still expanding.

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Had the C.O visit this week...went out on service and Wow

by MrsR-Awaken in

this is my first post here (not being comments) but i still have to tell my story but for that i need to get my mind together in other to give as much detail as possible to be able to share it.

will do in a future post.. anyway i had to share this.. so i went out on service this morning (i never do i always end up excusing myself because i hate field service) reason i did was to see what the new c.o had to say and he sure did say something.

he was saying what we had to present and he went over the watchtower magazine.

alanv

I know for myself, the friendlier someone is who comes to my door, the more suspicious I am about their motive for coming to my door.

People understand that most people are after something whenever they call on you.

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Yearbook 2016: Annual Report (15177 Partakers)

by Designer Stubble in

the 2016 yearbook is up on jw.orgbranches of jehovahs witnesses: 89 (was 90)number of lands reporting: 240 (was 239)total congregations: 118016 (was 115416)worldwide memorial attendance: 19,862,763 (was 19,950,019) decreasememorial partakers worldwide: 15,177 (was 14,121 in 2013:13,204) large increasepeak of publishers in kingdom service: 8,220,105 (was 8,201,205) minor increaseaverage publishers preaching each month: 7,987,279 (was 7,867,958)percentage of increase over 2014: 1.5 (was 2.2)total number baptized: 260,273 (was 275,581)average auxiliary pioneer publishers each month: 443,504 (was 635,298) huge decreaseaverage pioneer publishers each month: 1,135,210 (was 1,089,446)total hours spent in field: 1,933,473,727 (was 1,945,487,604) decreaseaverage home bible studies each month: 9,708,968 (was 9,499,933)

alanv

Interestingly, the increase in Europe is now around 0.2% which is very similar to the population increase of Europe. This means for all the hours and effort the witnesses in Europe have put in this last year, they are no further ahead than this time last year.

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2015 Worldwide Memorial Attendance: Another Sign of Decline

by steve2 in

jw memorial attendance last year - 2014 - was about 50,000 shy of 20 million.

some posters on this forum had confidently predicted before the 2014 memorial that attendance would hit more than 20 milion.

they were wrong.. now, in 2015, and the memorial falling on a weekend night (where attendance is historically much higher), attendance has not only failed to top 20 milion but has declined by more than 87,000 in attendance over 2014:.

alanv

Steve2 can you tell us the source of the 2015 figures? Thanks