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  Bethel Library moving to Warwick, are older items 'vanishing'

  by Lostandfound in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in a post re dates etc from fatfreek reference was made to huge library at bethel with items dating back to pastor rs day.

  like the year 1975 which has vanished from wt theology, are gb using move to let them put all old and inconvenient items into some sort of cold storage and off library shelves.

  already the revelation book has gone from the orgs website, and that was quite recent relatively, we studied it 3 times at congregation book study, yet now, like type and antitype it mysteriously was never there.

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  alanv

  I can totally understand how Watchtower would want old books thrown away from the Kingdom Hall libraries. Obviously the newer the books are the more likely they will have present truth, whereas the older ones have crazy stuff that was rejected years ago, and is a real embarrasment to them.
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  Bethel Library moving to Warwick, are older items 'vanishing'

  by Lostandfound in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in a post re dates etc from fatfreek reference was made to huge library at bethel with items dating back to pastor rs day.

  like the year 1975 which has vanished from wt theology, are gb using move to let them put all old and inconvenient items into some sort of cold storage and off library shelves.

  already the revelation book has gone from the orgs website, and that was quite recent relatively, we studied it 3 times at congregation book study, yet now, like type and antitype it mysteriously was never there.

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  alanv

  Well personally I think they will keep all the old literature. Nothing has changed apart from them moving.

  They have already acknowledged that they have ''readjusted'' their understanding of scripture, which is why they have brought out so many new books over the last 140 years. For those at Bethel and also JW visitors it is evidence that the governing body has been providing loads of spiritual food over past decades.
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  In Your Opinion Do Today's Elders Recognize That The Religion Is BS?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i always wondered that while i was in especially when i was an elder.

  i recognize that some people,elders included are brain-dead.

  but do you think that the average older today knows it's all nonsense?

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  alanv

  Many of the elders I know are not very bright and have not accomplished much in their private lives. So when they get to become an elder it makes them feel important and they get some prominence which they would never have got without becoming an elder.
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  India ... what's the latest?

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  we haven't heard much recently about india.

  whats the current situation over there?

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  alanv

  The point is the vast majority of Indians have no idea about the JW message. A third of the world has never heard their message. This can be easily checked in the 2017 Yearbook. The org cant say the preaching has been completed in all the earth if that is so.
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  Witnesses really hate it when you appear to leave.

  by schnell in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have a certain customer, whom we will call sally.

  i know sally only by face and only through work.

  i am a truck driver on a local dedicated route, and i often deliver to her work.

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  alanv

  Yes Schnell you are totally correct. They love to be able to give a label to anyone who is not a JW any more. But when someone just walks away from the religion because they realized they had been lied to for instance, they really hate it

  In fact often faders are often treated like someone who has been disfellowshipped and totally shunned.
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  Witness weddings

  by dothemath in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recently went to a witness wedding, and after the vows the bride and groom were introduced as "brother and sister".....(then last name).....(then the big kiss).

  this is likely not unusual (i've heard it before), but with lots of "worldly" people in attendance it seems out of place to me.. i was just wondering if that's the way it is most places?.

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  alanv

  The thing that annoyed me at witness weddings was how the congregation just remained seated as the bride came in. I asked an elder about this and he said well its kinda like worshipping her if we stand. I said of course its not it is just showing respect.
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  Kingdom Hall Master Plan. - letter - Consolidation.

  by Lostandfound in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just seen reference to a recent letter read to congregations about this, anyone got more info please?.

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  alanv

  Consolidation. A good word for meaning we are now getting nowhere. lol
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  The Results Are In: On average, for the past 90 years, 1/3 of the world has been banned

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so using some amazing features of excel and the starting data here, i managed to get the average, the maximum, and the minimum percentage of the inhabited landmass of the earth where jehovah's witnesses have been either active (reported) or "not banned".the average is 66.10%!!

  that means that for 90 years, ever since there is data, 1/3 of the world's area has not been preached in or been fully able to preach in!the minimum occurred in 1943, when only 26.77% of the world's inhabited area made a full yearly report and/or wasn't banned.the maximum occurred in 1991 because the yearbook said that the ussr was included.

  the maximum was 82.47%.

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  alanv

  So true. Totally agree with the one third figure. It can easily be seen by anyone who reads the latest Watchtower annual report. That means by Watchtowers own figures, God is about to destroy 2,500,000,000 who have never even heard the JW message.
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  AND STILL NO RELEASE OF THE 2017 JW YEARBOOK

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here we are on the cusp of the new year, and the 2017 yearbook of jws has still not been released.

  jw.org continues to feature the 2016 yearbook in its list of main publications.

  in previous years, the upcoming yearbook's annual report on jws was released in november for the january 1st then the feb 1st watchtower, then earlier in december when it was only featured in the yearbook, then more recently with a couple of days of december 25th.

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  alanv

  They seem to be leaving it as long as possible for some reason. After all, they are only waiting for the report to complete the book. The majority of the Yearbook can be prepared in the summer.
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  LONDON Kingdom Hall for sale - well, kinda!

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the sell-off of kingdom hall's in the uk is continuing unabated as we are about to enter 2017....in addition to the thirty-five kingdom halls highlighted by the search a couple of months back.....it seems the cry has gone out to: "sell them faster!

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  alanv

  I was going to say we can check the 2016 service report when it is published to see if there are less congregations now in UK. But of course it is the Kingdom Halls that are closing not the actual number of congregations