Posts by alanv

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Oct 2017 WT again shunning instructions

by Daniel1555 in

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alanv

There is nothing new here. It has all been said before. They just like ramming the point home every now and again.

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Aust Census Data shows decrease while Yearbook shows increase

by shepherdless in

on threads about 8 or 9 months ago, i put up some detailed data from the 2011 and 2006 australian censuses.

data from the 2016 census is becoming available in stages, and i mentioned recently that i would do an update.

finally, as of about today, some data of interest is available, and i have started to look at this, but it is time consuming, and i am time-poor.. anyway, the first search i have conducted is just a simple breakdown of the number of people describing themselves as jw's.

alanv

I dont believe the Australian service report is wrong. Over the years the org has shown in many lands the figures, even when they are very bad. There would be no point printing figures that are wrong for just a few countries

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Jehovah's Witnesses on BBC World Service radio

by jw news 2017 in

it is supposed to shape every facet of the lives of its 8 million followers around the world.its beliefs set it apart not only from non-believers and other christian faiths.but what has emerged in recent years is an alleged catalogue of sexual abuse that has gone unreported and unpunished due to this adherence to the literal word of god.david cook meets the survivors of years of abuse who say their claims were ignored because of the lack of two witnesses to the crime, a major law of the organisation which it says is enshrined in the bible.jehovah’s witnesses deny they shelter any abusers but he will hear how some alleged abusers were allowed to remain part of the organisation because of the lack of witnesses.he will also investigate how this insular worldwide community is responding to mounting pressure to turn over decades of testimonies which could expose thousands more cases of abuse... "~ quoted text, and video image, from the web page:http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p056p7wgaudio of the programme:'heart and soul ~ witness protection' ~ broadcast on bbc world service at13:32 uk time, on 30th june 2017© copyright bbc world service © copyright bbc heart and soul

alanv

Thanks for posting. Great that t went out on the world service

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Baptismal Formula

by leftbehind in

quick question.

does anybody know what is said during the baptism i.e.

the actual dunking?

alanv

Maybe some said 'if you dont come up from the water, remember there is the resurrection'

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2017 Sunday RC Final Talk & Comments About 1975

by baldeagle in

many of us here have commented on the deceitful friday afternoon video shown at the 2017 rc that discussed 1975.. the video attempted to shift the blame onto congregation members for the fiasco saying, "some were looking to a certain date as signifying the end of this old system of things.".

this same video mentions how, “a few even went so far as selling their homes and quitting their jobs.”.

we all know that the wt leadership created this teaching and endorsed it right up to its abject failure.. now below is the concluding talk given on sunday at the rc.

alanv

The further we get from 1975, the more the org can safely talk about it if they need to, as so many from that time are no longer around. But luckily todays retired generation are around and we can show very clearly from the orgs own literature how it was them, not the witnesses themselves that grew all the excitement about the end coming. Food at the proper time? What a joke.

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7 day conventions?

by HereIgo in

did any of you attend the old school week long conventions?

i have heard stories and it seems like these were mostly in the 70's and 80's before my time.

i couldn't imagine.

alanv

I think by 1969 it was just 4 days. I cant even imagine being there for more than that

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Judge acts to limit Watchtower's influence on child.

by Lee Elder in

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friends

a judge in the uk has ordered strict limits on a jw father's ability to let the watchtower indoctrinate his child.

not sure if this is precedent setting, but i think the judge is spot on.

the reasons are explained in the article.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/11/jehovahs-witness-agrees-not-show-son-religious-cartoons-risk/.

alanv

A really good decision from the judge. It is totally wrong that young children are exposed to these vile videos.

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UK Child banned from seeing JW videos

by usualusername1 in

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friends

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/11/jehovahs-witness-agrees-not-show-son-religious-cartoons-risk/.

alanv

This is really good news, and hopefully many other families that are split will get the same help. Certainly many of the videos aimed at children can cause them very bad emotional damage.

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Day One Lowlights

by FedUpJW in

too much crap to keep track of, but a few low lights of day one of the regional convention stuck out.

in no particular time sequence here is some of what i managed to hold down.. tight pants yapped on in the opening part about a three part theme to conventions.

part 1 was in 2016, part 2 is this year, and part 3 is in the works for 2018. i guess the big a isn't coming for a couple more years, at least.. then it was really stressed that all good dubs must always be prepared to "witness" by carrying jay double you, dot org calling cards, and of course wear your id card for the convention at all times, and all places.. next was the strong statement that the purpose of the carts/trolleys is not to place literature, it is to direct people of the public to "our" web site!

alanv

'Next was the strong statement that the purpose of the carts/trolleys is NOT to place literature, it is to direct people of the public to "our" web site! '

Probably said because very little literature is placed from these carts, so the next best thing is let the societies website have a go at them instead

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Just ordered the book Crisis of Conscience

by CitizenofEarth in

hello there.. i just ordered the book coc, and will son recieve it.

does anyone have anything you want to mention about the book - perhaps some things you stumbled upon that might help me understand something more?

or maybe you have any thoughts you want to share regarding the book?

alanv

The whole book is amazing, and I too found it hard to put down. It is crammed with information about what goes on behind the scenes in New York.