They have said for years they were not inspired like the bible writers. Also they have said elders are appointed by holy spirit simply because they have to meet the bibles requirements which were written under inspiration. This explains of course why some elders were found to be hiding some hidden sins like child abuse, simply because they would good at hiding it.
Posts by alanv
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This Forum is used by Bethel rodents to address member doubts in future magazine studies
by Tenacious indon't you find it interesting how some topics and explanations on this board are sometimes addressed in magazine studies?.
for example, i remember commenting (i'm sure it had been mentioned many times before) not too long ago about how the organization uses the "spirit led" phrase in their baptism question.
and this naturally tells members they are indeed claiming divine guidance.
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Compensation Figures
by diamondblue1974 inwithout going into the details here i’ve had a renewed call to take direct action and preparing to protest at a convention very soon.. where could i find the figures paid out by the wts to survivors of abuse in their organisation?
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alanv
Yes very important to have the correct figures. Otherwise you leave the way open for the jdubs to dismiss all you say, even though 95% of it could well be true.
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Why did Jesus piddle around for 40 days in the wilderness?
by nowwhat? inafter all he only had 3 and half years to perform his ministry so every day counted.
instead of witnessing to satan couldn't he have made better use of his time reaching as many people as possible?
just using some jdub reasoning on the matter..
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alanv
Wow I never knew there were so many instances of 40 in the bible. Certainly not a coincidence.
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Modern Medical Science Heals Blindness Better than Jesus
by fulltimestudent ini posted some time back that i was having vision difficulties.
at sydney eye hospital it was determined that i had no other serious eye problems except a growing cataract.. i was referred to another hospital for a removal of the natural lens in my left eye and its replacement by an artificial lens,.
had that operation a week ago - no problems except my iris did not expand enough to permit the lens procedure, so they had to use hooks to expand it, turning a less than 30 minute operation into a 90 minute procedure.. all very professional and first class treatment.
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alanv
I have cataracts in both eyes. Not severe at the moment, but will need to be done in next two years. Totally amazing results from people I have spoken to about it. Modern science can do so much now. Its not surprising that in the UK, however much money we put into the National Health Service there will never be enough to keep pace with all the advancement in medical procedures.
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update
by Akid48 inoh buy this is going to be long.i'll be lucky if most of you still remember me its been a really long time since i've posted.
so im 15 now makes me happy because im getting so close to being able to work and being able to make my own money and save it.i've had talks with my family i havent said flat out that i dont care or like this but they have figured out that i dont agree with it,who knows whats that means for the future but i know its most likely going to be something bad.the way i've dealt with this hole shit hole is that i just dont let it get to me.i told myself im not going to let this hole thing ruin my childhood and my chance to make memories and to do things that normal kids can do,and the year i said that is the year ive made so many storys about dumb and fun things i did and that year made me feel like a normal kid and made me feel like nothing was wrong and maybe my life isn't that bad.i know its not smart i know i'll be in big trouble if my aunt or anybody that jw found out about what i was doing could go very wrong,but at this point i dont care even if thats dumb im just not going to let this ruin my time to have fun and be active before i become a adult,alot of stuff went on i mean i diged my own hole have my own girlfriend big red flag to them i have all worldly friends big red flag to them when most of its just me being normal but those two would put me into deep shit.. i know that the hole double life thing is bad to jw's but if any other teenager or kid is on this website i just want to say dont be scared to live a double life,dont be its brought more happiness than i've ever had in years its brought more motivation in my life than anything.its like having the life you should've had yes its hard to get through the loops of dealing with jw's but all the work is worth it.the so called double life is a normal life that you should live so dont feel bad and live the life you should be living.. but im happy to be posting again that first part is my update and the second one is for any kid that is looking around here,i hope you guys are doing good and i hope everybody is fine its good to be back!.
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alanv
I wish i'd been strong enough to question what i was told when i was a JW teen. It took me two decades to get up the courage to check the JWs out. So glad I did, I really enjoy my life now, with friends I can disagree with sometimes, but still be close. Hope all goes well for you, I'm sure it will though.
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So Cricket Boring?
by Slidin Fast inif anyone watched or better attended the cricket world cup final and thinks that cricket is boring they should watch a re-run.
what a game, what a spectacle!
amazing!.
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alanv
It truly was an amazing match. Was only one day which made it more exciting. Certainly wouldnt call New Zealand losers, just runners up. The rules were in place, and both teams knew what would happen if their was a tie at the end, as in fact there was. It was a great day for cricket worldwide.
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Lowel MA. Convention, Plenty of Empty Seats
by RESPECTFUL OBSERVER inall the empty seats … lowell ma.
regional convention, july 6, 2019 over 2000 missing!.
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alanv
Any figures on attendance and baptisms?
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1914 Prophecy
by Acer21 ini am having trouble locating what is the 1914 prophecy?
jw.org states that the jw's accurately predicted the events of 1914, but do not indicate what the predictions were, or the specific fulfillments.
what do jw's think they are (predictions/fulfillments)?
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alanv
They were wrong about all of it accept where they said there would be a time of trouble in 1914. The main thrust of their message then was that the world would be destroyed by God for people being so wicked.
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Are Witnesses advised not to get into discussion’s about evolution with HH?
by Diogenesister injust before the last memorial, i finally had a witness call with an invite ( i say finally because i haven’t seen anyone in the d 2 d preaching work for going on 5 years!)..
i wasn’t particularly prepared ( it being early and me still in my nightie!
) but i managed to collect myself and said i didn’t think i wanted to go since i discovered the scandal around the un.....and i outlined the facts.. jw: oh no i don’t think so, where on earth did you read that?.
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alanv
There is very little reasoning with JWs now days. If you dont show an attitude of accepting what they tell you without question, then they will be off.
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U.K. Judge rules five year old JW (not baptized) can get blood transfusion
by Tenacious ingirl, 5, from jehovah's witness family can have blood transfusion, judge says.
by michael black.
a high court judge has ruled that doctors can give a sick five-year-old girl from a jehovah’s witness family a blood transfusion.. the little girl’s parents said their religious beliefs would not allow them to consent to a blood transfusion.. but they said they would not object to a judge making the decision.. mr justice hayden was told that the little girl was in a “grave” situation and could die or suffer a stroke if she did not have a transfusion.. the judge analysed evidence at a public hearing in the family division of the high court (pictured) in london on wednesday after hospital bosses asked him to make a decision as a matter of urgency.. he said bosses at the leeds teaching hospitals nhs trust had responsibility for the girl’s care and had made the application.. he said the girl was being treated at leeds children’s hospital.. the judge heard evidence via a telephone link to the hospital.. a specialist told mr justice hayden that the little girl was suffering from sickle cell disease, an inherited blood disorder, and that her condition had deteriorated.. .
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alanv
Unfortunately by beig in a cult, the parents had to abide by Watchtower rules. They must have been so happy when the judge allowed the transfusion, even though they couldnt show their joy to fellow witnesses.