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  What a messed up Cult the JW religion is

  by Think About It in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm reading coc for the first time.

  a governing body that is suppose to be god's channel on earth and led by jehovah's holy spirit could not even change jw dogma even though the majority of those present voted for change.

  there had to be a 2/3's vote of the total gb membership.

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  alanv

  Hi think about it. You are right. It is a messed up religion. Crisis of Conscience has helped so many people on this and other sites. Ray Franz the author was able to tell it exactly as it was because of being on the governing body for 9 years.
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  Chosen in 1919, but they didn't realize it until 1929

  by UnConfused in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no, i don't have the wt articles at my fingertips.

  it is the case though that it wasn't until 1929 that the wt changed their current understanding to be that they were inspected and selected in 1919 - 3 1/2 years after 1914 and christ's return to the throne.. .

  wouldn't you think such an important event would have been revealed in a more obvious way?.

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  alanv

  I may be wrong but I believe the society actually say that Jesus set up his heavenly kingdom in 1914, then 3.5 years later in 1918 he ressurected the anointed who had died up to that time. It was then in 1919 that he appointed the witnesses to proclaim the kingdom message in all the earth, choosing them and no one else.
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  Memorial attendance down slightly in U K for 2010

  by alanv in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the u k is following the trend of recent years in reporting that 637 less people attended the memorial than in 2009. the actual figure was 222795 as reported in the july kingdom ministry.

  (sorry i can't provide a scan as i only got to have a sneak look at it.

  ) there were 284 partakers.. since 2003 that is a 2% increase.

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  alanv

  The U K is following the trend of recent years in reporting that 637 less people attended the memorial than in 2009. The actual figure was 222795 as reported in the July Kingdom Ministry. (Sorry I can't provide a scan as I only got to have a sneak look at it.) There were 284 partakers.

  Since 2003 that is a 2% increase. In reality it is a decrease, when you allow for the increased population in the U K over the past 7 years.

  Anyone got the figures for U S A or any other country. It should make interesting reading.
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  First "Apostate" Thing I've Done

  by scotinsw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just been on facebook and saw a friend of a "friend" had a truth box which is anonymous.

  i sent a little message to them!.

  probably will get ignored and they will think that the evil apostates are out to get them but still, it made me feel like i'm getting over the whole witless thing.. so.....what was the first "apostate" thing you ever did?.

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  alanv

  Read 'Crisis of Conscience.' And boy did things then fall into place.
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  Incoming communication from Borg elder

  by sd-7 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i guess it's about time to post on what happened over the weekend.

  i was telling my old pal jamiebowers about it and she thought it was hilarious.

  thought i might retell the tale on a thread of its own.. so, i dropped my wife off at the kh for her cult recruitment activities.

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  alanv

  I'm not sure I would say it was hilarious like Jamie did, but what I would say is that if you were disfellowshipped and have no intention of going back, why not tell them the reasons. I'm sure since leaving you must have found a wealth of imfo. about the JWs.

  I really wish I could do that, I would love to share with them what many ex witnesses have found out about this fake org. Unfortunately I had to fade as I have family still in and clearly don't want to lose them from my life.

  Maybe if you get accosted again you can tell them why you are not going back. Good luck for the future and enjoy a borg free life.
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  I'm Going To The Watchtower Headquaters Next Week And I Have A Question

  by Blue Grass in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  next week i plan on going to new york to get a songbook in a foreign language for a district convention that i will be attending next month.

  i'm first going to go to bethel and get directions to the headquarters where they keep all their literature because i can't find it on google maps.

  my first question is will they let me in to get directions or literature if i'm wearing jeans and a t-shirt.

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  I'm sure they will let you in. As a JW they would expect you to obey their spiritual direction that you should dress up. However I don't believe they will make an issue of it. Let us know how you got on.

  I imagine providing you make a donation to the WT for any literature you take, they couldn't care less if you are a witness or not.
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  I think its a good thing nobody gets or even notices the generation change "new light"

  by cognac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  no matter what the society does to try to attempt to fix this generation debacle, there is no way they can ever get it in jwa minds that the end will come past 2014.. nobody even gets or understands the change.

  nobody cares.

  generation will always mean to them up to 100 years!

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  alanv

  I think your right. They all have their own private ideas on it. To them it does not matter. They have been so indoctrinated that the gov body is the channel God is using, they simply stick with it believing any wrong understanding of scripture will be sorted out in time.
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  Numbers of memorial

  by etna in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i don't know if anyone has this or if its available yet, but does anyone have the numbers of the partakers of the memorial this year?.

  etna.

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  alanv

  OK So does anyone have the figures for the attendance at the memorial for this year. I would like to know the U K and world figures.
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  Why are the British football team so useless?

  by highdose in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last nights match was humiliating.

  and lets face it... if they even make it to the semi's it will be amazing!.

  ok you could say well they are playing agianst the best teams in the world... but other teams manage!?!.

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  alanv

  The team as a whole atually played pretty well. It was a silly mistake by the goalkeeper that robbed them of victory. Most people agree that England played the best
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  The Generation Watchtower (TOMORROW!) and The Cough of Incredulity

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the watchtower will be studied tomorrow that contains the new overlapping generations teaching.

  paragraph 10 reads:.

  "he evidently meant that the lives of the anointed who were on hand when the sign began to become evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other anointed ones who would see the start of the great tribulation.".

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  alanv

  I will be very surprised if the flock don't lap this up like lambs. They will probably say how it all makes so much more sense now. Sad