I think the September 2011 is out too. I always appreciate anyone posting them. It helps those of us who have family still in, to know what they are up to.
Posts by alanv
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Anyone Have the August OKM ?
by Maralee indose anyone have the okm for august?
thank you in advance.
maralee.
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Being A Jehovah's Witness is Simply A Waste Of Time!!!
by minimus ini hope that if any witness sees this thread, they understand that being a witness = being a time waster.. please understand this.
if you don't believe me, i'm sure others here will agree.. if you can salvage any of your time that is left, do it!
get out of this false religion.
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alanv
I guess I was lucky. I had a great social life as a witness. Always plenty of friends to go around with. I also enjoyed the power of being a pioneer and mini servant. Also learnt how to speak to different types of people and to address a large meeting.
Having said that the so called friends dropped me like a hot potato when I left for disagreeing with the society.
So I have good and bad memories of my time with them.
However much of those things I mentioned I could have learnt elsewhere if I wanted.
The worst thing is realizing your so called friends are totally conditional on you agreeing with all that they say. I am well rid of friends like that.
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Who was Cains wife?
by trailerfitter inexcuse me for being uneducated on the bible, especially the genesis.
apparently cain had a wife....where did she come from?
were the children involved in incest or were there other people outside the garden of eden?
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alanv
I always thought a better question regarding those times was where was the land of Nod that Cain when off to?
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Watchtower Dress Code at Elder School Knorr Style!
by Marvin Shilmer inwatchtower dress code at elder school knorr style!
today i uploaded a new article to my blog addressing watchtowers dress code for attending and speaking at its elder schools.
those with personal experience at these events should immediately recognize a big difference between then and now.
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alanv
Marvin you seem to have a real obsession with what the society did in the past. Life and death issues are one thing, but come on, who cares what they wear. In business meetings, some are formal some are not. It really does not matter.
As far as the society goes we need to concerntrate on what they are saying and doing now, not worring about what they used to wear 30 years ago.
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2011 DC Friday Keynote Address - Who are Preaching the "Good News Of The Kingdom"
by dontplaceliterature indid anyone happen to hear this talk?
ours was given by a southern circuit overseer.
it was really a "whoa team!
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alanv
I don't know why anyone would be surprised at those words, the society have been saying the same thing for years. They always have been arrogant.
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I NEED TO KNOW THE "TRUTH".
by hubert inare baptized jehovah's witnesses allowed to go to a catholic priest's funeral?.
would elders allow this?
(without them being reproved)?.
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alanv
When my brother got married in a Catholic church we went, but made sure we were not part of the service by sitting away from the wedding party.
I think that is where the trouble would come, if you joined in with the service. Just observing is as has been said just a conscience matter.
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Jehovah / Yahweh is responsible for mankinds inhumanity to man & beast
by smiddy inif you beleive the bible account in genesis when cain killed abel, why didn`t jehovah/yahweh kill cain right then and their.?
" an eye for an eye"!!.
apparently cain had no remorse for killing his brother and was only concerned that someone would come after him to avenge abels death,so what does the almighty god jehovah do ?
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alanv
That 'land of the fugitives' is ridiculous, unless the account means he went to join his mother and father and brother Seth. There was nowon else living apparantly at that time.
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Holy Spirit in Judicial Committees
by Mr. Falcon inone of the most controversial practices of jehovah's witnesses is the operation of judicial committees.
these specially-assigned inquisitory boards are manned by at least 3 elders and interrogate, investigate and finally prosecute a person believed to be guilty of any number of offenses.
these offenses can be anything from heavy drinking, masturbation, swearing to infidelity, apostacy even issues of bloodguilt.
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alanv
It does not matter how hard the elders pray or how often, the fact remains that they can get it wrong and have done on many occasions.
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So what do ya'll think about the recent new light?
by stillin9 inyou know, the thing they were talking about in the 2011 dc.
it was about how the "toes" of daniel's image no longer represent all the individual governments that have come around in human history.
and that the anglo-american world power is the last world power we'll see before the end of the system of things.
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alanv
What happened to the United Nations being the eighth world power springing from the seventh. Don't they teach that any more.
Certainly calling Britain part of a world power is a joke. We are billions of pounds in debt, and we import much more than we export.
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There is no social programme in exsistance that recommends shunning as a means of rehabilitation
by jambon1 incan someone tell the wts/jw's how utterly counter productive & cruel shunning is?.
apart from serious crimes where a person might conscientiously have nothing to do with a friend/relative, people who are struggling with any kind of issues generally need love, support & kindness.. shunning is unnecessary, evil & humiliating.. does the punishment really fit the crime?
someone caves into the 'sins of the flesh' so they are cut off from all human contact with everyone they know?.
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alanv
They won't get rid of something that works well for them.
In most cases it stops the sheep from mixing with someone who has rejected the org. for whatever reason. Clearly the society do not care two hoots about human rights. The shunning is actually blackmail. They are saying providing you do exactly as we say, you can come back.
Blackmail pure and simple.