I believe their understanding is that the sun was created in the first opening statement. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. At that time the suns rays could not fully be on the earth because of the water canopy round the earth.
Posts by alanv
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Knock knock."Who's there? Two elders!!
by Darkknight757 inso today was a cold and snowy day in my neck of the woods and the wife and i were just chilling around the house waiting to go to the church tonight for a candle lighting service when lo and behold we get a knock on the door.
yup, 2 elders from my old hall.
i figured they were fishing for some time so i invited them in and gave them some coffee and we talked about everything that happened and why we walk away from the jw's.
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JWs target Syrian refugees. 40 already converted.
by usualusername1 inhttps://twitter.com/revolutionsyria/status/772234488353058816.
i could not post video.
this was the best i could do.. paul.
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alanv
JWs have always targeted the vulnerable in society. They see this as an easy way to increase the JW membership.
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The uptake...
by Thisismein1972 inwith recent events pointing at watchtower growth, i felt compelled to say a few words.. if the figures turn out to be true, then we should not be discouraged.
after 9/11 there was a surge in, not only the watchtower, but other demonisation of organised religion.
whenever there is a a paradigm shifting event that puts fear into others, this tends to have a life changing affect on an individual.. now let us zoom to the present.
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alanv
The whole of Europe last year managed just 0.25% growth. Pathetic.
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Child abuse case news
by SkyGreen inhttp://m.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/oct/15/ticker-jehovahs-witnesses-relief-appellate-court/?templates=mobile.
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alanv
Yes me too. The figure so far is heading toward $600,000 than the Watchtower have to pay as fine for doing nothing in this case. Would be nice to get an update from somebody.
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I guess the latest WT killed any hope of US jws growing beards.
by Crazyguy inin my area i'd guess 30% of the men maybe more have some kind of beard.
this craps gotta wake up somebody still in!.
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alanv
A link to the article in the magazine, would be helpful.
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Organizational Accomplishments—Haiti After the Earthquake
by wifibandit inorganizational accomplishments—haiti after the earthquake video will be considered the week of december 26, 2016. youtube.
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alanv
They really want JWs to believe that only their organisation cares for people during disasters. Complete propaganda to keep them in this cult
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OMG! The JWs have hijacked the internet!
by Wild_Thing infound this awesome website where you can type two things in and compare anything in a nice neat little chart.
so, just for kicks, i typed in jehovah's witnesses vs. mormonism ... and look!
who the hell gave them the information for jws???
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alanv
I thought this must be from a current witness, then noticed they said their founder was Charles Taze Russell. A genuine current JW would not say that
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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way
by notsurewheretogo inthe statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?
" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.
is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".
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alanv
It is not the first time this has been said. They regularly tell the sheep that the governing body are God's reps and should be obeyed. But to cover themselves, every now and and again they say that they are not inspired or infallible.
So just same old, same old as far as I am concerned.
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Some recent baptism figures in the UK - is there a "bounce back"?
by freddo inwell, round my way (south of the uk) all the way up to and including the regional conventions this summer, baptism numbers have been extremely low.
but i have just received news of three recent circuit assembly days where the figures seem to be higher.
(all have been across the last three weekends at a uk assembly hall in october).
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alanv
We need to remember that it is not baptism figures that are important, but rather average publisher figures. After all if 100 got baptised in one circuit in one year, but 100 publishers left the org, the figure would be 0% increase.
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Take My Silver and My Gold..
by snugglebunny inno, these are not new lyrics.
they are the original lyrics as to be found in the 1950 songbook: "songs to jehovah's praise".
the song is simply called "dedication".. the words may have been altered in recent years, but the "new" words are simply the old words being re-hashed.. we can't make a meal of this as some are doing.. just saying, that's all..
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alanv
So if the words were got rid of, why have they now brought them back?