Posts by Shazard

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Question about baptism

by Shazard in

hey people!

i have read that baptism in jw is something very different than in christianity.

so question... is jw baptism somewhat legally binding.

What about actually signing some papers in case if you were baptised in other church previously? What use of this "signing"? Or it is just part of the same mind game?
p.s. Here I wanted to state, that do not worry I am not preparing for JW baptism. Was once allready baptised as infant, and that's enough for me!

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Jesus and the Father

by Thomson in

god spoke to moses on the mountain, yet jesus said john 5:37 also the father who sent me has himself borne witness about me.

you have neither heard his voice at any time nor seen his figure.

(nwt) .the only-begotten god who is in the bosom position with the father is the one that has explained him.

Shazard

Well you are right. This is basic stuff what led church fathers to understand trinity! Also John 1:18 just da same statement.

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Why did Jehovah give the job of writing the BIBLE to the Catholics?

by gumby in

this is a thread which was inspired by our own hot little mary.. jehovahs witnesses claim that since pentecost of 33 c.e., there has been a faithful and discreet slave class that was appointed by jesus himself and that this slave class was "entrusted" with all of jesus belongings ( dispensing spiritual food to his followers and the rest of mankind).

oddly, when it came to gods own word to mankind being compiled ( the bible), ......jehovah chose the catholic church to dispense, audit, compile his message!

imagine that!

Shazard

I guess the final version was approved not by Rome!

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John 20:30

by desbah in

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30: and many other signs truly did jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:.

anyone post a thread on this topic yet???.

Shazard

John 15:15 I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.

John 17:6 "I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word.

Act 2:28 You have made known to me the paths of life; you will fill me with joy in your presence. (Psalm 16:8-11)

So conlusion... Everything you NEED to know Jesus revealed! Anything else would be repetition of what's allrady sayed or done I guess!

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Jehovah, The Imposter God

by THE SHOOTIST in

what was jehovah thinking when he put that tree in the middle of the garden and the told adam and eve not to eat of its fruit?

the real all-knowing god would never have done such a thing.

didn't he know that making the tree and the fruit would absolutely ruin this perfect man and woman?

Shazard

Tetrapod.sapiens & SHOOTIS
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I am sorry I read my response and I understand your reaction. Once more sorry!
And no I never been and not planning to be JW as I am thinking person. My experience and findings shows that God is not imposter, just people tend to missunderstand things which are not clearly stated and naturally "fills" the gaps and thats why they get sometimes wrong conclusions. I could try to fill the gaps, and then it's up to you to decide if it sounds reasonable... That's of course if you want to find out other opinions about da topic.
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Once more - please forgive me my offending tone. All my fault!
And no I don't think that world is only black and white. And no I don't know all the TRUTH... I am searching it, and there are things I have found and what I believe and gladly will share to someone who seeks to know things.

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Question about baptism

by Shazard in

hey people!

i have read that baptism in jw is something very different than in christianity.

so question... is jw baptism somewhat legally binding.

Shazard

Hey people! I have read that baptism in JW is something very different than in Christianity. So question... is JW baptism somewhat legally binding. Can it be so? And what use of some papers which you sign that you deny some previous baptism (say as infant)... I don't want explanation of theological part, but other... worldly part of JW baptism.

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Jehovah Condones Rape!!!

by THE SHOOTIST in

when jehovah's goldly sons came down and cohabited with the daughters of men and things got out of hand, who was supposed to be in charge?

it wasn't the daughters of men who saw that the "gods" were fair, making the first move, but the "gods" who saw and took all they wanted.

today that conduct would basically be called rape.

Shazard

Seems like somebody can accept only the God who is Judghe and Policeman. BTW Satan thought so too... just didn't realized what is Love :) You will not even unerstand when I would try to explain. So I wont! You have to get to know what is love, nobody can tell it or describe it!

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Does God make Mistakes or Bad Decisions?

by gumby in

genesis 6:5-7, 8:21. god decides to send a great flood to kill all humans, save noah and his family, because man's heart is evil.

"and god saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.... and the lord said, i will destroy man whom i have created from the face of the earth.".

later, after the flood waters recede, god promises never to do it again because man's heart is evil.

Shazard

Seems like somebody can't distinguish between "change of nature" and "change of mind" :) First learn basic language and idioms then start to read Old Testament :)

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Jehovah, The Imposter God

by THE SHOOTIST in

what was jehovah thinking when he put that tree in the middle of the garden and the told adam and eve not to eat of its fruit?

the real all-knowing god would never have done such a thing.

didn't he know that making the tree and the fruit would absolutely ruin this perfect man and woman?

Shazard

The Shootist.
That's your problem... you make question, you answer them by yourself and then get some conlcusion.
Do you know that basic of deduction - that if you have right premises and use right methods you will get ONLY right answers. And in opposition if you have wrong premises or use wrong methods you will get ONLY wrong answers.
In your case it is wrong premises... You compar Christian God with some your own mind construction - god. Get to know God then you will understand why he put the tree.
I can answer... He knew what can happen. BTW nice topic to think about... and if you get conlcusion in 2 minutes, you surely are on wrong way! :)
But I know our time... you need "fast-food" religion, "fast-food" answers to complicated questions. In this case you end up right where you allready are :)

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SO MAD, HURT, Crying at WORK

by unique1 in

damn her!!!

ok, sorry, i have to let some of this out before i start crying at my desk again.

my mom and dad told me that they would stop talking to me.

Shazard

God Loves without conditions. He is NOT as us. He is holy. He loves men and hates sin what separates us from God. So he came into this world as Jesus Christ... took upon himself our sins and died for us, to cover this gap what separates us from him. Read - 2 Cor 5:18-21. And read WHOLE John's 1st letter. In Christ you see how much God loves us. How unconditionally he loves us... And the most most most important scripture is John 3:16 - this verse alone saved millions! Christ is God's love in Human Flesh. Get to know Christ and you will Know who and what is God who is Love! He is only Beeing in the whole reality and beyoind it who can and does love us unconditionally!