Understanding of this comes from understanding what YHWH stands for. Even JW (I guess) admit that it is form of hebrew word "to be". But very specific form which isn't possible in english or my native language. Somehow transcendental "to be". So actually YHWH for english would be "Creator" "One who makes it to be". So it is very core of nature of God. God is one who creates reality. He is source of everything what is. He is arche of all creation. So for english it would be "Creator" "God" "LORD". And it is how christians udnerstood it it is how Jews understood the meaning of the word. Exodus 3:14 is where God reveals his very nature his core. To reveal your name is to reveal your nature. God's Name is reflection of God's very nature.
So for orthodox YHWH is name of nature of 3une God.
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Who is Jehovah in the view of orthodox theology?
by Check_Your_Premises ini always figured jehovah was the father, jesus was the son, and we don't know what to call the holy spirit.
is this the orthodox view?.
but if god is triune in nature and all that, is jehovah the name for all 3 dudes lumped together, or is it just the name for the father?.
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Is there corelation? (probably for believers in Christ & Gospel here)
by Shazard inis there corelation between prayer for lost jw friend/relative and his/her time until he/she realizes that wt is lie.
i see that some of people come out after 20-30-40 yaers... but how long it takes for those who are being backed up by prayers!
i am asking just to know if there is pattern... how long i have to pray for my brother?
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Is there corelation between prayer for lost JW friend/relative and his/her time until he/she realizes that WT is lie. I see that some of people come out after 20-30-40 yaers... but how long it takes for those who are being backed up by prayers! I am asking just to know if there is pattern... how long I have to pray for my brother? I ofcourse will do it till my last breath if needed, but isn't those who are being prayed for comes faster out?
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Church Fathers Purposely Lied about Jesus
by gumby injosephus as most know, was a jewish/roman 1st century historian.
he was well respected by the roman community and christians were zealous readers of his works.. he is one person christians use as a solid basis for proof of jesus earthly existence.
here is a quote that is used by some christians who strongly believe these words came from the hand of josephus himself,"now, there was about this time, jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure.
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May coz not until 4th century anyobody doubted in his existence?
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Sorry, another 607 question? I'm confused.
by lost_light06 inim trying to figure something out concerning the wts 607-1914 chronology that has me confused.
i thought they based the chronology on when jerusalem was destroyed.
however, the following is taken from the daniel book and it seems to base it on something else.
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Shazard
Is it me only or I am stupid. Why nobody see several very simple things.
1. When 70 years started and WHAT they were and WHY there were started. Bible tells it very clearly. Read 2 Kings 21:11-15, then read Jer 15:3-4 and 2 King 24:1-3 and 2 Chron 36:20-21. There is cleary stated when and why the punishment (70 years) started. And it was not for Jerusalem alone but for whole Land and neighboring countries. Read Jer 25:11
2. Please read whole Jeremia 29 chapter. Read very firsth sentence of the chapter. Jeremia is writing TO captured exiled Jews FROM Jerusalem (it is still standing) and he is writing to them "when 70 years will pass". So 70 years allready are being predicted BEFORE Jerusalem is destroyed. Ofcourse JW can't see it as they just don't believe what Bible says.
3. Jer 27:6-10 writes again about 70 years starting period. It is for desolation of whole land not only Jerusalem
4. Read several different translations of Daniel 9, the text speaks about Jerusalem being desolated DURING 70 years, or till end of 70year period. So Daniel 9 speaks about WHEN Jerusalem desolation(s) will end. And it is at the end of 70 year period. It does not says that Jerusalem itself will be desolated for 70 years. If there is (I don't believe) some JW who knows aramic, he can read original
5. Zach 1:12 again prooves that 70 years not for Jerusalem alone but for whole Judea.
6. And most mind blowing place where captivity and Jerusalem destruction are mentioned in one place is Ecehiel 40:1. There it is cleary stated that captivity began BEFORE Jerusalem destruction.
7. And Biblically no Jeremia and no prophet speaks that 70 years punishment period starsts or is somehow connected to destruction of Jerusalem. It allways and in every place is connected with begin of Nebucadnezzar reign, when Babilon became most powerfull force in the known world. All the Judea and neighboring countries was under him. And this is the 70 year period. It is pure invention of WT that 70 year period is somehow conencted with Jerusalem destruction. There is no word in Bible for such interpretation. -
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I'm trying to make a web page (HELP!)
by MsMcDucket inok, how do i put music into the page?
it's been years since i've made a web page.
which should i use midi or wav?.
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Shazard
Believe putting sound into web page is very annoying and sign of bad design. Do not do it if you want someone more then one time to come to your page.
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This REFUTES Watchtower Blood policies and exposes the LIE
by Terry inhere is something hardly anybody is aware of.
it is an outright refutation of watchtower blood policies.
the rule against blood as we have come to know it through jehovah's witnesses is a bogus misrepresentation of already existing laws which the non-jews were under as far as jews were concerned.
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Guys! And again... no "honest" JW will ever read all this. During first 2 sentences they will find out that this is apostate material, and just close the browser. Any message to JW should be put into 2 sentences, only then you have chances to slip the seed of doubt into their heart.
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Wouldn't it be great if JWs behaved like this at your door??
by Inquisitor ini do not recommend that you have a mouthful of food or liquid while watching this in front of your monitor
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/133073/the_good_word_go_long_for_jesus/
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Cool... this would be very good and fun :)
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HOW WOULD A WITNESS ANSWER THIS?
by Mary inok, i responded on another thread about a blood issue, but i suddenly thought of a new point of view that, as far as i know, hasn't been touched on yet (i apologize if it has been) and i wanted to get your opinion.
as we all know, the governing body refuses blood transfusions based on the scriptures that talk about pouring the blood of a dead animal "out on the ground" because the life is in the blood, yada, yada yada.
they have stated openly that there is no difference between eating the blood of a dead animal, and taking blood from a live human, even to save a life.
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JW would not understand your point of view. They are not able to comprehand any topic longer than 2 sentences.
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Mankind's search for god / What is true from the bible?
by GBSJG inthe previous months i have done a lot of research about the wts and came to the conclusion that it is not the truth.
this however makes me think about what i still believe in.
is there a god?
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Strange. You don't think that God exist, coz you can't understand him?
I think that chemistry and quantum phisics does not exist. And by your logic electricity does not exist too.
But with God we have better case then with electricity. You can ask God all these questions and seek answers. Go to the Jesus Christ directly without different org between. -
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How can they explain THIS!!!!!???!!!
by Lady Liberty incheck out jeremiah 52:30 in the new world translation, it says:.
29 in the eighteenth year of nebuchadrez zar, from jerusalem there were eight hundred and thirty-two souls.. 30 in the twenty-third year of nebuchadrez zar, nebu zarad an the chief of the bodyguard took jews into exile, seven hundred and forty-five souls.. all the souls were four thousand and six hundred.. what this shows is the societys teaching that jerusalem was desolate, is not supported by scripture.
it was not literal.
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Common... WT will perish as perished first arians. FOr them it took 3 centuries. For WT it will take less than that. So in general if you look on the numbers of JW in the world, they actually do not exist. They are NOT... they ar so small... over whole face of the world. And even then they are perishing. God allways keeps his promisses and one promise is to not let unpunished ones who takes Lords name in vane.