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  How many people did you bring out?

  by Sacchiel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sorry if this has been discussed previously.

  i will be leaving this false organization soon, but i'm slowly trying to help other see the actual liberation and joy exists.

  have you been succesful in bringing out others from the wt?

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  cyberguy

  I helped several friends of mine, and one of them was an elder at the time. It was hard for the elder to accept it at first, but after he researched WT literature, he concluded that what I had shown him was correct. I found that strictly using WT literature at first is the best approach. Also, it was necessary to help him see what the WT really teaches on a subject, because most JW’s simply do not understand WT teachings. It is impossible to refute sometime otherwise.

  One scripture I really like to use is Matt. 28:18, where Jesus says “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.” Before sharing I briefly review exactly what JW’s understand happened in 1914. Then we read this scripture, and ask if they knew that WT says this is only a “promise” and that Jesus had to wait until 1914 before this was fulfilled. (You can share what is in the “Require” brochure to back this point up.) At this junction you’ll find out just what kind of person you’re talking to. Also I try and leave just this one thought, but will continue the conversation at a later time if they want more. This is really a revelation for most JW’s and I found that removing the scales off a person’s eyes takes time.

  I wish you the best on you Journey!
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  Two Visits From Jehovah's Witnesses This Past Week

  by TMS in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my wife and i were both on ladders painting the exposed boards of our storage shed on a weekday when a car pulled into the driveway across the street.

  mr. and mrs. gomez were not at home.

  like most of the homeowners in this community, they use these homes only on weekends or holidays.

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  cyberguy

  TMS, thanks for sharing that experience. Very interesting. It has given me some new ideas of how to witness to a witness when they come by.
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  Help! My "devout" JW's mom is "pioneering" at age 76 on a cane.

  by booker-t in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  posters i have tried "everything" to show my mom that the wts is full of beans but she just won't budge.

  i have heard through some non-jw's relatives that my mom who is 76 years old and having alot of problems with her knee is pioneering.

  i am so worried about her standing in front of the donut shop or supermarket at 6:00 am.

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  cyberguy

  Brooker-t, you should be worried!

  I’ve seen older JW’s increase their hours, only to fall over dead from a heart attack shortly after! So much for “increased activity!” And do the bustards in Brooklyn care about this? HELL NO! So yes, I’d be very worried! I’m not sure how much you can do to help your mom, but perhaps you can her see that the center piece of “love” is totally missing from this group that claims that are the only Christians on earth. I wish you the best!
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  Update! Attending Sunday Meeting and Loving it!

  by drew sagan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yep that's right folks, yours truely has actually been attending the sunday meeting.

  many will ask, why in the hell would you ever do that?

  well, developments going on in my world have led me to this decision.

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  cyberguy

  Hey Drew, that was wonderful! However, after the meeting was over did anyone say anything about your comment? And how did the WT conductor react? Did he say anything?
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  I cannot beleive i am an " apostate"

  by sspo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my hell is just beginning, 26 years of marriage, almost divorced last year until we finally decided to get back and give it another try this year.

  now i'll have to meet with the elders and tell them about my spirituality and doubts about the wts, 1914, 1995 generation change,malawy/mexico,and on and on and my wife will be there.

  i do feel sorry for my wife because she has already lost 13 members of her family, "apostasy" and some just left the truth and even though some are not disfellowshipped she won't talk to them, now her husband, is going thru the same thing, she cannot accept it because out of 31 y. in the truth i was an elder and how could that happen.

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  cyberguy

  Welcome sspo!

  I’m sorry to hear about your situation, but as others have posted here, and in the interest of saving your marriage, I would NOT meet with the elders to discuss your issues with the WT. As you know, such a meeting will not be about what is true or false, but rather, whether you support mommy “O” and mommy’s unique teachings. I would suggest the “depression” defense, along with getting older in life with its many health problems, and that you don’t want to further your depression by such a meeting. The elder’s have been told by mommy “O” to back-off from those with severe depression, so this is your way out! Gradually, over time you may be able to win your wife over from the cult.

  I wish you the best! And please keep us informed as to how things are working out!

  Peace!

  Cyber
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  I don't open up much here

  by purplesofa in

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  this makes you so happy.

  this makes you think that they have the "truth".

  ) there were many prophesies that the wt made that did not come true.

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  cyberguy

  Hugs purplesofa,

  It's because of people like you and your comments that keep me coming to this board. Thanks for sharing! Sorry to hear about your dog!

  Peace!

  Cyber
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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 6-25-06 WT Study (Survival)

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  who do the sons and daughter-in-laws represent (did they have children before the flood)?.

  what does the ark represent?.

  (2 peter 2:5) the true god gave righteous noah explicit instructions on how to build an ark for the preservation of life through a global flood.

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  cyberguy

  Just as Noah and his God-fearing family were preserved in the ark, survival of individuals today depends on their faith and their loyal association with the earthly part of Jehovah's universal organization.

  To survive the end of the present wicked system of things, we must do more than believe that it will be destroyed. We must exercise faith, taking full advantage of God's provisions for survival. Of course, we need to exercise faith in the ransom sacrifice of God's Son, Jesus Christ. (John 3:16, 36) However, we do well to remember that only those actually inside Noah's ark survived the Flood.

  I notice that they had to slip in a very short blurb about the need to exercise faith in the ransom of God’s Son, Jesus Christ. But is this the only mention of Jesus in the entire article? I’m not surprised since the Organization has taken on Messianic proportions! They've taken over the job of God's son. Contrast this with this well known verse in the Bible:

  (John 14:6) 6 Jesus said to him: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

  Thanks Blondie for your efforts here, but this week's lesson was really pushing my buttons!
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  A little bit more about myself....

  by truth.ceeker in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if any are so inclined to read a little bit more about me i would appreciate it.

  what i would like to know is if anyone has gone through a similar situation and how they dealt with it or are dealing with it.

  it seems to me that the more people i talk to and learn about, it opens my eyes to different ways of looking at something and sometimes a light bulb goes off in my brain and says, wow!, i never thought if it that way before but it could be really effective for me.. oh, i guess i could give you the link,

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  cyberguy

  WELCOME truth.ceeker! I read your story and I only wish my family would be more diligent in seeing what the WT really is! Thanks for sharing!
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  Started developing with Visual Studio 2005 and Team Foundation Server

  by Elsewhere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last friday i upgraded my development environment at work to vs2005 with tfs... i've got to say: wow!

  with tfs source control integrated into vs2005 we can now develop our asp.net web applications on our local boxes.

  combine that with the new debug features and i have to say i *almost* enjoy getting errors while testing!

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  cyberguy

  WOW Elsewhere! I didn't know you were a software guy! Yea, I've been in the consulting business for 30+ years! And some of my earlier experiences were on machines now in the Smithsonian—oh God, my age is showing through! Anyway, I did years of engineering-related programming in C/C++/Assembler, developed in MFC/C++, had written dozens of device drivers for early minicomputers and about 6 flavors of Unix. I designed hardware/software for embedded microprocessors, worked in storage robotics, and telemetry for NASA Wallops, compiler development for several languages. Chances are the diagnostic software that comes with your computer was written by me (it is the only software I know of that is shipping with US-based computers). Now I'm working in Eclipse/Java on software tools for my own company. We should talk some time!
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  Haven't been on here in a long time

  by Dustin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i haven't been on here in a long time, so i was just checking it out.

  lots of new faces and some of the same i was used to seeing.

  anyways i am still alive suprisingly lol.

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  cyberguy

  Hey Dustin,

  Nice to have you visit with us apostates! You ought to hang out more often! Thanks for coming by!