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  The Watchtower's method to show that it was appointed in 1919 CE

  by Doug Mason in

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  2. beliefs

  please note that when you tell me of the corrections i need to make that this is a simplfied, minimalist presentation dealing with the society's appointment in 1919.. it is available as a powerpoint show: http://www.jwstudies.com/appointed_in_1919.ppsx .

  and as a pdf: http://www.jwstudies.com/appointed_in_1919.pdf.

  doug.

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  cyberguy

  Hi Doug,

  If I understand correctly, recently, there's been "new light!" The key element is that the FDS "doctrine" has drastically changed! (The Faithful and Discreet Slave of Matt. 24, is actually a simple illustration, given to encourage the caring or caretaking of others from the first century onward, rather than the dominating of others. The illustration is NOT that the slave becomes the master [as the Governing Body would now claim], but that the slave remains a slave, despite the long delay of Christ's return, providing life-sustaining care [food] for fellow slaves; they're waiting tables as in a restaurant, nothing more).

  
  

  The interesting question now is, based on the latest crazy teachings, how the "organization" is attached to the "slave," the current Governing Body. I suspect they're completely insane! Well, an even more important question is, how the "slave" of 1919 (i.e., essentially Rutherford) has now been extended to the current GB. Is it the Catholic Church's apostolic succession? It's not explained anywhere, but this is the only explanation that I can see. What's your view?

  
  

  Please rethink this a little bit and provide some thought-proking arguments, based on current JW teachings as you have done in the past.

  
  

  Kindly regards,

  
  

  Cyberguy
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  David Splane stares at school children

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  may 11 2013, zone visit; brother splane visits ireland.

  brother splane spoke on the subject should you wear sauls garment?.

  .... "bro and sis splane were once assigned to a fanatically catholic town.

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  cyberguy

  Hey VM44,

  I first thought that Splane was talking about himself and the GB! And these monsters can finger-point to the Catholoic Church! Good grief!

  -Cyber
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  My Judicial committee

  by label licker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it was six hours long.

  at the beginning of the week i had four accusers and by the time i went (half way throught the week) i was up to twelve.

  i was charged with apostasy, malicous slander, lying, revileing.

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  cyberguy

  Hi label licker-

  Geepers, I'm so sorry! I dont' even know what to say right now. I'm without words! I'll respond shortly after I recover! I'm so sorry for your attack! Take care!

  Cyber
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  Faithful and Discreet Slave parable through the three gospels

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is the parable of the faithful and discreet slave, put up from the three gospels, so you can see their differences (3 gospels out of 4 relate this):.

  matthew 24:42-51: (prefered by the gb/fds/gb).

  42 keep on the watch, therefore, because ?you?

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  cyberguy

  Hi Pixel,

  In Matt 24:42-51, there is only one “slave” mentioned, not two as most JW’s would explain it if asked. Interestingly, the “Thousand Year…” book explains it this way too, but then concludes that there are two “slave classes” that somehow come out of the one “slave”. Of course, this is nuts and the latest GB change, even crazier! Anyway, there’s only one “slave” with two potential outcomes in illustration.

  Cyber
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  My wife just told me to move out...

  by nolongerconfused in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  because of "religious" differences, she now wants me to move out and "separate"...i said what biblical grounds does she have for her request?.

  she couldnt respond...she said she'd rather be beaten up by me than have an "apostate" in the house.... this org definitely encourages conditional love.... i don't know what to do...by the way, we dont have children.

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  cyberguy

  Hey dude,

  I’m so very sorry for the way your wife is treating you. She’s conditioned to react this way, of course. You did have the right approach, however. Ask her to back up what she’s says from the scriptures when confronted (but only to a point). Also, have her explain from the Bible what an “apostate” is, since what is there in the Bible is far different from what the tower says.

  You also need to consider that you may not have presented the issues in a way that someone highly addicted to the stuff can deal with. You know, you're talking to someone on the worse kind of dope! So you may need to apologize. Please consider that you may be partly to blame. These people are so highly addicted! It’s like crack! Maybe worse than crack! So you really need to let the smoke clear! You may wish to not bring up the subject up for a long while and see if things can cool off. In any event, it’s hard to know what to tell you, because none of us know exactly what you are facing-we're not in your shoes. I say this in a kindly way. Please take care!

  Cyber
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  Jehovah's Witnesses- The Organisation Behind The Name

  by african GB Member in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lets admitt it guys, this org is the closest that anyone will ever get to the truth, i am not saying they are perfect, but maybe they just need a few modifications to some of their doctrines.. after all they are not that bad.. they don't execute people.

  they promote unity and peace among people.

  they encourage people to live good purposeful lives.

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  cyberguy

  Farkel,

  I couldn't have said it better myself! On the other hand, this guy may be smoken something that might be pretty good! Sure would like to find out what that is!

  Cyber
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  Is this Watchtower comment about the Slave a lie?

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the question from readers, watchtower 2011 8/15 p. 22 it made the following comment:.

  "we thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know.

  the governing body does not keep a list of all partakers, for it does not maintain a global network of anointed ones.".

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  cyberguy

  Technically, the statement is correct, because they do not know (they choose not to know), because that particular information from publisher record cards is not sent to Brooklyn. However, the statement that they don’t know who these people are seems begs the question as to how theycollectivelyprovide the “spiritual food at the proper time!” Obviously, this is a deception!
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  Does the Issue of Universal Sovereignty make sense to you as an explanation for evil?

  by gubberningbody in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it used to for me, and now it doesn't.. i'm not sure how i was able to accept that argument now that i don't, but perhaps it was connected with my increasing compassion for people and their personal suffering as i've grown older.. now it seems like a sick excuse.

  more like a bar-bet with satan and all of creation suffers.. i read paul's words and he has no rejoiner except to say in effect "sucks to be a vessel of wrath...glad i'm not one, but who are you to complain anyway, huh?

  who's bigger, smarter and more powerful than you, you, you complaining vessel of wrath, you.

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  cyberguy

  So God makes bets with the devil? Oh really? After taking another look at the book of Job, it seems that the court scene with the devil making bets with God is really a literary device. It’s like saying “what if” the reasons bad things happen to good people is because of some heavenly debates or challenges in the spirit realm. The entire book is full of “what if” conjectures. The final conclusion is that man has absolutely no knowledge or understanding about what happens outside his realm (and even inside his earthly realm he knows virtually nothing), thereby, conclusions based on faulty conjectures are futile, worthless.
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  {Sigh}, I could use a hug...

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my first two exams were this week.

  things didn't go well.

  the classes are tough -- math and science.

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  cyberguy

  Hey Billy! Hang in there buddy! Don’t give up! I really enjoy your posts here! It’s been over 30 years since I was in Bethel. But I still have flash-backs like you, especially when there’s any kind of pressure. That place was one of the most abusive circumstances I’ve gotten myself into in my entire life! I was spiritually and mentally rapped! So, I understand in many ways!

  Here’s an e-hug! ;)

  (I’m sending you a PM.)
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  Are you estranged from a parent or child?

  by wannabefree in

  1. social
  2. family

  anerson cooper is looking for experiences.

  maybe if enough ex-jw's sign up, producers will see a potential to look into it ...... sign up sign up.

  http://www.andersoncooper.com/be-on-the-show/209.

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  cyberguy

  I haven't spoken to my brother in while. Yeah, the CULT keeps us from talking. Let's hope time will change this!