If the bible students can still exist, then you can rest assured that the WT cult will live forever. The pragmatists will win, and allow this organzation to survive. It may shrink, or it may grow. Hell, it might even become a more mainstream religion. There is no doubt in my mind, it will always exist.
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A gradual decline or sudden collapse for the WTS?
by DT inmany of us believe the days of the watchower society may be numbered.
they are receiving an unprecedented amount of well deserved negative publicity.
however, they are still experiencing modest growth.
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Unmarried and pregnant by JW
by Valrose inmy boyfriend was a jw for most of his life, he is no longer participating in the religion.
we are not married and i'm now pregnant.
does any one know and can advise me what i can expect from his parents once they find out?
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Highlander
Would they cutoff all communication with their son? Would they treat him badly?
Yes, and Yes.
I doubt his parents are bad people, but they are trained by the cult to behave badly so don't be surprised by anything crazy they do.
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Just talked to Witnesses at my door for Hour about Watchtower Child Abuse
by flipper init happened again like in july when i talked to an elder and his wife about child abuse, but this time i got a hold of rank and file members who fortunately i was able to play like a fiddle as they had no idea what they were up against here.
so brother middle age ex-hippie convert ( as he told me later ) and sister middle age hair in a bun offered me the awake on death or our view of death.
i graciously accepted gaining their trust saying yes, i had close loved ones who had died over the years but didn't know if i believed in a resurrection or hereafter.
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MARY- Thanks Mary. I agree the elders will try to stymie them and probably tell them not to talk with others in the kingdom hall about it. Hey, I don't turn time in on it, but I count the time in my head and heart ! Lots more rewarding !
But ofcourse, that is what we expect and want to happen. When the elder dismisses the brother and sister when they mentioned the lawsuits, it will confirm exactly what you told them about information control.
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Good JW Growth for 2007
by voltaire indear all,.
i don't see that anyone has commented on the 2007 report.
i must say i was surprised with the impressive growth, not only worldwide, but in the developing countries which have seen some decrease in the last few years.
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Highlander
I have no doubt that the WT printing corp will live forever, or at least as long as there are humans around.
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Now widow wants MONEY because of no blood transfusion
by VanillaMocha73 inhttp://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/6dc0ac2739be6e63862573b000160633?opendocument
should not she just get a job?
or express her faith that jehovah will take care of her?
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Let Jehovah line her pocket book with the green stuff.
I really don't understand why the WT corp doesn't have a blood doctrine insurance policy that each member can pay into for cases
like this. If refusing blood is that god damn important, then wt corporate needs to put their money where they lying mouth is. They
sure are willing to invest in attorney fees to ensure that each member can commit suicide at the blood alter(and benefit from it),
but never will they use their 'charitable status' to help out members that are truly in need, financial or otherwise.
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"Is it the high cost of living or the cost of living high?" from the CO
by restrangled inmy mom at 73 is full time pioneering and complaining that many days a week the young couples never show up.
she describes them as having new cars, big houses, and having to both work to maintain their lifestyles.. she mentioned the above statement from the latest co to the congregation.. oh really......!.
i said to her, well none of these people were allowed to get college educations and they are probably earning 10.00 an hour max which goes nowhere.
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Yeah, I am paying for it! Though, I would any how; do to family issues. I still can't find a job that pays the bills, and I am about to give up and move to a place where it's cheaper to live.
Really? In light of the following post: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/143724/2584830/post.ashx#2584830 How could you possibly find a cheaper place to live?
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How long before you tell people you were once a Jehovah's Witness?
by Trevanian inmost of the people i've met since i left don't know that i spent years of my life as a door knocker.. i have very dear friends who don't know.
i've even had lovers who didn't know.
my last partner knew, and found it vaguely amusing.. i guess i find it deeply embarrassing, although over the years it's become easier to mention it.
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I mentioned my j-dub background as soon as it's apropriate to do so. Then I proceed to anti-witness and educate the person I am speaking with, about the dangers of cults and why I consider the j-dubs to be a mind control cult.
I even talk to some of my clients about the j-dub subject. Regardless of who you are, if I'm given the opportunity, you will get any 'earfull' from me about cults and j-dubs.
Many that I talk to are shocked to hear about families that are broken apart, or lives that are lost at the blood alter. It doesn't take long for the average person to realize the dangers involved in joining.
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Pioneer Heavy at the Top
by OnTheWayOut invirtually everybody above the rank of elder is/was a pioneer.. you can't become a c.o.
without pioneering.. bethelites (even sisters who marry in) were pioneers.. the administration is full of pioneers that worked their way up.. missionaries and senior overseers at all branches were.
pioneers.
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Highlander
In my experience, only the pioneer/elders(or elders with pioneering wives) were allowed the 'priviledge' of giving parts at the conventions and assemblies. To be fair, I should mention that some of these elders were "part time pioneers", having applied and pioneered numerous times throughout their lives.
The only exceptions I've seen to this, were the wealthy elders that may have given some very healthy green hand shakes to COs and DOs.
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More Gilead goodies! - Advice for 'people from poor countries'
by sir82 inhere's the latest snippet of an e-mail from a friend of a friend in the current gilead class.
this is his recap of part of one of their lectures in class:.
...1 cor 7:17-24 speaks about .
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I've thought about learning her language, though I doubt it would help much. Her english is better than that of many americans. She puts zero effort into having a normal conversation. I'm sure it has everything to do with the fact that I'm a big bad apostate.
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More Gilead goodies! - Advice for 'people from poor countries'
by sir82 inhere's the latest snippet of an e-mail from a friend of a friend in the current gilead class.
this is his recap of part of one of their lectures in class:.
...1 cor 7:17-24 speaks about .
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In the Philippines, where I am at present, the local JW's still ask for donations before handing over literature - "The bible was printed in Japan at great cost". The people they are asking money from often live on a dollar a day. They are not the only religion stealing from the people in the name of God here - it's commonplace, but I find it totally immoral.
No sh$t ? My wife is filipino, yet I did not know that those ffers from the wt require the witnesses to ask for donations. You're right about the philippines, the vast majority there live on pocket change each day. I'm not doubting you, I'm sure this is one of many things my wife and her horrible communication skills neglected to tell me about. Hope you enjoy your stay in the Philippines. Try and get away from the city, to some of the more beautiful parts of their country.